Survey Finds Nearly 20% of Millennials and Gen Z in NY Believe Jews Caused the Holocaust

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[–]cisheteroscum 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

do you believe the standard, basic narrative of Anne Frank

transferred from Auschwitz to Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, where they died (probably of typhus)

Yes. Some allegations of edits to the diary are out there but the basic story I agree is true

Is jailing innocent citizens

Exactly what the US, like Germany, did to Japanese-americans and others? Yes

[–]SaidOverRed 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You... you forgot the 'until death part'. Marching in a band is fun. Marching until you die is not.

You're answer of 'yes' means that you consider what Germany (and the US) did to be a holocaust, which contradicts your above "'the holocaust' didn't even happen tho." But I suppose you already knew that. Congrats on the successful troll.

[–]masterclass 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm curious, how many Jews do you think were killed in the holocaust, and what do you base this on? This is the primary sticking point I have with the "official" narrative.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't know for sure. I can point you to other's estimations, though. Standard breakpoints are 1.5,2,3,3.5,4,4.5,5.5,6 million. Let's pick 4? Like I said, I'm not a historian and I didn't live through it. Not sure the relevance though.

[–]masterclass 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well I dont know what the actual number was either, and the person who said why does it matter does have a point in that it was horrible and shouldnt have happened regardless of whether it was 2, 4 6 or whatever. But a lot of things happened during ww2 that shouldnt have happened, and there's plenty of blame to go around for that. It wasnt as clear cut as good guys vs evil guys, and I say that as someone whose grandfathers fought for the "good guys". Including one who fought from France to Germany as an infantryman. During the 60s and 70s there was a bit of a reappraisal of what happened in the war, led by authors like Kurt Vonnegut that painted a more complicated picture. Since then we've regressed back to a simplistic Hollywood jingoistic view of the war with cartoon like villains vs heroes. Its been done for political reasons and its sad, because the truth matters, especially if you truly want to know WHY things happened the way they did.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well stated.