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[–]masterclass 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The HolocaustTM had many causes. The official Hollywood narrative is that it was all zee eviiil nathzees. In reality it was likely a variety of factors including International Jewry pretty much declaring war on the Nazis from day one, the fact the allies bombed the shit out of German cities and intentionally targeted German civilians(again with much pressure from prominent Jewish voices), the fact Germany was being starved and by teh end of the war could barely feed its own people, German paranoia over Jewish dominated bolshevism, and yes because of Nazi propaganda that demonized Jews and many in the Nazi leadership that just wanted them out of the picture one way or another.

Oh yeah, and the death toll was likely significantly lower than 6 million.

[–]chadwickofwv 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Considering the census data from Europe just before the war didn't show 6 million jews even existing in the occupied countries and Germany combined, I have some pretty strong doubts about the numbers.

[–]masterclass 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well using census figures are a ridiculously imprecise method of coming up with a death toll for many reasons, and those reasons are compounded when you are talking about an ethno-religious minority spread throughout many nations rather than a census for the total population of one nation. Before during and after ww2 Jewish refugees/emigres were scattered all over the planet. Good luck obtaining an accurate count of how many were present at the start, then who went where, who died, and how they died, especially when they have plenty of reasons to inflate the death toll and a previous track record of doing so dramatically.

I would guestimate the actual death toll somewhere between 1.5 million and 4.5 million, but nobody really knows what it is. The 6 million number is likely a gross overestimate though and treating it as a definitive number that can never be questioned is proof of how political it is.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But even state this in Germany and you are fined and arrested.