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[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

The founding fathers made sure we had guns for people like you. Forgive me for not giving a fuck about your "debate". Infringe on my rights and be prepared that I do the same to you.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Thinking public gatherings being limited because of a fucking pandemic is actual tyranny

No, they gave us the right to bear arms to keep the country free of actual tyranny. You're apparently too self-absorbed to care about how your actions will end up hurting other people, but selfishness certainly doesn't make your position morally right.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

The government cannot infringe on my right to assembly.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If the government thinks it can infringe on the right of the people peaceably to assemble, then it will find out why we have 2A.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Mongbrains that think they understand how to interpret the finer details of the constitution are always amusing. Do you know what common law is? It's a basic principle that you have to understand, particularly with regards to the state of common law when the constitution was written, before you can figure out whether or not something actually is constitutional.

From one article on the topic -

"Richards explained that the colonies frequently practiced isolation in an effort to keep out infectious diseases... They were very deeply enculturated into the society,” Richards said. “There are not many Supreme Court cases directly on the point because the law was so well established that no one would have thought to challenge it.”

But, as implied there are in fact cases dealing with this matter, such as the ones described in this other article on the topic

"The most significant early decision from the U.S. Supreme Court to mention the state power to quarantine occurs in an 1824 case known as Gibbons v. Ogden. Considered a landmark decision on the federal power to regulate commerce on the interstate waters, Chief Justice John Marshall — our greatest chief justice; the competition is only for second — explained that one of the powers the state possessed was the power to quarantine.

This was not controversial; as Marshall put it, the power to quarantine was seen as a power “flowing from the acknowledged power of a State to provide for the health of its citizens.”

He then goes on to list other cases, which also affirm this. All you had to do was a simple google search and you could have gotten a correct answer to this question. Yes, during a pandemic the state can ban activities that would normally be constitutionally protected. But hey maybe if you write a letter to Justice Kennedy that you've noticed this "right to peaceably assemble" passage that the other Supreme Court justices seemed to have missed, he'll look into it.

[–]Zahn 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Fed-Quixote, let's talk about the DNC and your affiliations with it. How did you first get involved?

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

+3

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Lol you have zero ability to process new information when it doesn't tell you what you want to hear. I gave you links to articles answering this question that were written by people that actually know what they're talking about, and your response is to put different parts of the same section of the constitution in bold? Like you're the only one that has ever read the constitution or something?

My best guess is that you don't understand that it's the job of the judicial system to interpret the constitution, and that in the event of conflict the Supreme Court has the final say, and that they're usually very good at it. That or else you're just a spoiled manchild that doesn't understand how to take "No." for an answer.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Any laws that conflict with constitutional rights are illegal, and unjust laws.

They should be thrown out. The courts are now criminal.

[–]Zahn 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Fedin, you're always so vitriolic and verbally abusive! Maybe if you could take it down just a notch so it doesn't sound so much like theres a screeching teenager around.

The difference in jargon would be Legal vs Lawful.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sorry, I can't help it. Stupid people annoy me. Self-absorbed people annoy me. This guy established that he is both.

[–]Zahn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You both have points, yours is on legal ground and his is on lawful ground.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bolded the parts of the very first amendment that you seem to misunderstand. You're also mistaken in your perception that the Supreme Court can somehow overrule the constitution or that Congress can make any laws that restrict the right of the people peaceably to assemble. It cannot and if you or they think they can, then the founding fathers gave us 2A to convince you lot otherwise.

[–]bald-janitor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Cuck