Chicago's lesbian mayor, Lori Lightfoot, launched a police raid on Sunday on a predominately black church for holding services in defiance of her coronavirus shutdown orders • /s/BiblicalSubmission

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[–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In other words, no, your rights are not magically immutable just because you don't care about other people. This is because, unlike children, normal adults understand their actions can infringe on the rights of others. Such as their right to liberty and happiness. Can't be very happy if a bunch of tantrum throwing toddlers in adult bodies are spreading around a disease, now can you?

What was that you were saying about insulting people as a substitute for argument?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Except I made an argument while characterizing the lack of argument from the other side. Ad hominems are in lieu of argument. Fact is, your "rights" are not magic.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, you are calling people who disagree with you children who throw tantrums.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, just the ones who refuse to obey the law and then whine about it when there are consequences for not respecting the rights of others. You know, like toddlers. Literally what children do. If they don't get their way, they throw a tantrum. The argument is that your rights are not magic, nor immutable, because they're things recognized by other people. The state, and the majority of people, do not recognize anybody's right to harm other people wantonly just because they feel like it.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The argument is that your rights are not magic, nor immutable, because they're things recognized by other people.

Constitutional rights are immutable. Period.

They are not recognized by other people.

Rights are inalienable.

Rights are given to each individual by God.

If people our the state have to "grant" then, then they are not rights. Privileges are granted.

Rights are inherent, and inseparable. Denying any individual their GOD GIVEN RIGHTS is a crime.

The state, and the majority of people, do not recognize anybody's right to harm other people wantonly just because they feel like it.

People going to church does not infringe on the safety of others.

The Constitution does not grant rights to safety.

There are no right to safety, or right to security.

There are no guarantees in life.

Government traitors are attempting to imprison the world with the pretense of keeping others safe.

It's a fraud.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You really seem to be confused. Just because we have rights doesn't mean we can harm other people. Just because there is an an emergency, doesnt mean we can "modify" our rights. Just because our govcorp says its ok, doesn't make it ok. I am healthy. Who am I harming as a healthy individual, leaving my house without a mask on? NO ONE.