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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

CCP are straight fascists.

There's no need to apply a political ideology to them they don't ascribe to. They're communists. All other communist regimes have been roughly the same. Fascists are somewhat different. Why twist these terms in the way you are doing if you're not ultimately trying to defend communism?

Economically they are kicking ass tho.

Yes slavery kicks arse, doesn't it? And they have made slaves of their entire population. That's communism for you.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why twist these terms in the way you are doing if you're not ultimately trying to defend communism?

Because he is trying to blame fascism and defend communism.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sutton's next three published books (Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and FDR and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler) detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[5] as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same "corporate socialism," planned by the big corporations.[6] Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[3] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth" because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market."[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Cope. It's all capitalism's fault, somehow.

[–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You like using that word :-) Cope. Capitalism is really good and responsible for the rise of China. China has managed though to prevent some of the weak points that arose in the US. Things like IP, like copyright and patents, they aren't really capitalist ideas though but some strange non natural state arrangement.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

capitalism, fascism, communism, socialism, all the same run by same people, divide and conquerism.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites

He's almost there.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

true his research had found it was skull and bones

they work for someone else

[–]DessieArdrey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

You might think that China is not facist because et communism and all, but trust me they are nearly as fascist as hitler's germany...Now admittedly the Chinese are not Germans but they are not far from them either, so how do you think America and Europe would have handled 1.5 billion Germans? Trustme there would never have been any America if Germany had such a population.

The Chinese are not Germans or Europeans, they are far far more patient and have a much deeper and longer culture of civilization. China will say they never would want war right up until the point 100's of millions of them have either immigrated or are on boats and the nukes are falling, they probably would still be saying they don't want war after they have landed, stuck a knife in you and are cooking your remains to eat over a fire they made from your furniture. Americans really don't have the stomach for how the Chinese will fight. Fat American will surely be quite tasty!

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Cope. Anything to deflect from communism.

China can be simply destroyed with sanctions. Your idolisation of them is truly pathetic.

You know what this Uighars thing is? It's not the holocaust mk. 2, it's the Gulag Archipelago mk. 2. The last desperate attempt of a failing economy to prop itself up with slave labour now the majority of its population are too wealthy to put up with shit conditions. It's the beginning of the end for China.

[–]DessieArdrey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No I am not deflecting I am stating a fact. Have you travelled China?, interacted much with the people? They are facists. I don't get how you would think portraying them as facists vs communists somehow makes them look better because to me it makes them look worse...

China can be weakened with sanctions but so will America. Sanctions would need to be global and it is not certain that can be achieved, China has far too many strong trade partners. They also have far too many strong cultural ties. All of Asia and the Pacific is ethnically Chinese. China is continuing to grow it's influence at a fantastic pace while America is withering. I think the biggest error in Americas strategy will come when Japan (also Chinese) breaks from it's American chains. If China can mend relations with Japan it's game over for America in the region.

Strange thing but people respond better to cheap nice products at the shop vs drone striking weddings and invading lots of nations to make vassal states. Rome made the same mistake too so don't worry your not the first empire to get it wrong.

As to the Uyghurs they are tiny tiny portion of the Chinese population like Hong Kong or North Korean is, they are not important for their labor. A few days of the Han fucking could replace them entirely. What China is not going to do is give one inch to what America wants which is to weaken China. Rather than destructive wars like America and it's master Israel engage in to suppress muslims, China is carefully and thoroughly putting them through programs to change. It really does show the insanity and evilness of the American culture that some how war and destruction is more desired than some far less destructive alternative....look around you American you are reaping what you have sown, just as Jesus tried to teach you, as the Buddha taught the east and many gurus before.... When your civilizations is burning and in ruins I hope then you might realize.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uh, China is in a very bad international situation. The US can cut off its oil supply at any time.

Good news though, the pro-US part of China has had the legs completely cut off at the knees. China made sure the protest footage was widely broadcast and now the average Zhou understands that America's rhetoric about freedom is false and that the CPC's ideas are better. Good job there killing the pro democracy movement for a generation.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Israel owns the world. If you think the Hans are so strong, then I want to see them say one bad thing about Israel and see what happens. They will crawl on their knees and beg for their forgiveness.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Behold the fourteen points of fascism. Please point out any of these features not being enthusiastically pursued by the CCP.

https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh god not that bullshit list again. Same list has been used to declare Trump a fascist, and the Tories in the UK.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Little brain goes brrr...yeah facism actually has an agreed upon meaning quite different than your ignorant opinion. This could be an opportunity for you to actually learn something.

Nahhh :)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That silly list is not an agreed definition. In fact just about every US government from the WW2 era to the end of the cold war would fall foul of the laughable loose definition.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Source for that 'fact'?