Drone footage of Uighurs being taken away

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[–]BIKERBITCH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

thats ok, buck the bull and your family will be blacklisted and you will sent to a work camp or a death camp.

in the new world, problem children will not be tolerated.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Meh, not everyone is under china's influence. China is fragile, as ever. China's Empire shatters every 100 years, it's practically on a schedule. Seems we're about due again... CCP always overplays their hand. They've already destroyed so much of the foreign goodwill they've spent 3 decades building. Truly a shame. Maybe they can rediscover their honor if the people (like Hong Kong) demand it.

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    [–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    False. All you need to do is look at a timeline.

    Correct. But don't fall into the trap all things repeat. Although this timeline has become more certain as it progresses, much effort has been made to change it. Some very interesting things are yet to occur. It will be a musk to watch :-)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    do you think China will collapse like the USSR did? The Russian Federation still has a lot of square miles. The USA is also quite large. To be honest I am surprised such nation states last this long, I think technology helps them keep their populaces docile.

    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    No I think China will collapse like China did 100 years ago, and 200 years ago, and 300 years ago. They always break apart in to civil war. That's the problem with trying to rule 1.3 billion people with an iron fist

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I think due to technology these collapses are becoming less frequent, and that is the lesson and prediction from 1984.

    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Perhaps, but I'm sure people said the same about the printing press. In fact I think it might make them more frequent, as people can see the atrocities more easily. That's why the TV media stopped broadcasting war footage to Americans after The Vietnam war. Because Americans got really upset about it when it was in front of them every day.

    That's why China has the firewall, but more and more people know how to use VPNs to bypass the firewall. The main thing keeping China intact is the economic success of the new middle class. If that ever stops, the leadership is in trouble and they know it.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    and yeah the printing press has made them less frequent. not down to 0% just that since then empires have lasted longer. But that was of course not as perfect as current technology, made it a bit harder to censor, someone might use a printing press to print factual pamphlets and they spread. They'd burn books but it was a bit harder to find them to burn them than on the internet. Of course they would prefer to control the source and control who owned printing presses. In some places it was made illegal and books were held in private collections. Nowadays it seems the printed word is dying out, people don't read physical books anymore. I have a lot of great ones on my shelf. Certain websites get deleted, youtube videos hidden, certain writers or philosophers get cancelled. At least I still have the books. USA might have already collapsed if the internet was never invented. The 60s were a time of a lot of strife. Media was controlled by CIA at least by the 70s. There were a lot of movements though. I know people protest today but they're really just having an excuse to party and loot. Old boomers from the 60s and 70s are the only ones really protesting it seems to me.

    Hard for me to say what life is like in China, how many really use a VPN there, out of a billion plus people I'm guessing not that many. I agree their middle class is important to them, I think their leadership just mainly doesn't want them graduating from middle to upper class and threatening their status. The middle class is like the outer party of 1984, a buffer between the elites and the proles. Some sort of middle class is probably always going to be allowed but they don't want it getting delusions of grandeur.

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      [–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      There could be splitting, you are just looking at the wrong nation. If you are in the US it should be more than slightly obvious which nation may split...

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      China isn't a country. It's an empire of provinces that are always aching to break away from the usually corrupt government in the capital.

      [–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      USA is lasting this long because it has only two bordering nations.

      China is lasting this long because they have world market by the balls and are not afraid to beat any hostile element into a bloody pulp.

      As for Russian Federation, it will collapse sooner or later - there is not much legacy of USSR infrastructure to parasite on and Russia are squeezed between corrupt government and no less corrupt randroids, both of which are interested only in their personal wealth at the expense of general population.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      well I mean why is it they only have two bordering nations, it started as 13 colonies, everything got slowly united over years, USA also has alaska, hawaii, and many other terrirtories and nations where we have permanent bases like germany and Japan.

      [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

      Here's what I don't get. On one side are backwards religious hillbillies. They refuse to adapt to a changing world, have no job skills, and react violently.

      On the other side is a government of rationalists. Educated people who are scientists and engineers, atheists who know the sky fairy doesn't exist. They are reacting by helping the hillbillies become educated, learn job skills for the 21st century, and if they don't want it they are forced, for their own good.

      Why are we on the side of the deplorables and not on the side of the smart people?

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Lol people like you make extremist leftists SJW types look sane by comparison.

      The type of people who you are supporting are more suppressive of freedom of speech and more extreme than them.

      Leftists, on the other hand, freely use censorship as a weapon of first resort. Their own positions are so weak that if people are allowed to point out the many problems, they would collapse.

      I find it ironic that someone who appears to supports freedom of speech and non-SJW liberalism is supporting communists forcing a minority ethnic and religious group into theirs the same way the Spanish did in the Spanish Inquisition. I guess according to your logic, your atheistic views are so weak, that you need to put millions of people in re-education camps to have your views accepted.

      I guess oppression, going against freedom of religion, ethnic cleansing and genocide, and "civilizing backwards people", and censorship is fine if you hate the victim's religion.

      And funny how you seem to ignore how violent these communists are, they are many many many many many times more violent than even the likes of ISIS:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Estimates

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism#Estimated_number_of_victims

      These "enlightened rational" atheists sure "helped" the Afghans and Cham muslims of Cambodia.

      Looks to me like you have an irrational hatred of Uyghurs and their religion than anything else.

      [–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Why America financed durkas in Afghanistan despite USSR being much better alternative to radical Islamists?

      Because Americans are retarded.

      Every time they whine about 9/11 I fucking laugh, because it's the bed that Amerifats have made themselves.

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Is having a communist empire superpower that is pointing many nukes, threatening a genocide that the world have never seen before really worse than the small time guerilla groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS?

      Look at this incident:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

      Would you prefer living in a world where a global nuclear war can happen worse than something like 9/11?

      [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      As an American i am for freedom, and one of the most sacred freedoms in America is the freedom of religious practice. If people don't want to evolve, that's their right. Nobody should be forced into it, especially not in such a way as forced labor camps. You're acting like these camps are fucking technical schools. They aren't.

      [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      But we hate people who don't evolve, remember? They're deplorable!

      The hillbillies are learning skills that will help them find jobs after release. They're also being shown that their religion is bullshit. By a government of smart people, atheists.

      As an American, you want to, what, invade China or something? The world hates world police BS. Americans have been told to back the fuck off and stop bullying many many times.

      [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Speak for yourself...