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[–]mongre 30 insightful - 7 fun30 insightful - 6 fun31 insightful - 7 fun -  (9 children)

Fuck china

[–]DieCommieBreederScum 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Fuck Islam

[–]Zednix 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both are garbage

[–]FediNetizen 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Exactly! Round them up and send them to concentration camps, right?

You know, for someone whose username is all about how much they hate communists, you seem like you'd fit right in at the CCP.

[–]ctvzbuxr 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I mean, "Fuck Islam" as in "I don't like the belief system"? Yes. "Fuck Islam" as in "take them away to camps"? Well, fuck no. There is a big difference between criticizing an ideology and... that.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How would you interpret the comment poster if this was a post of Holocaust footage, someone wrote, "Fuck the Nazis" and this guy replied with "Fuck the Jews"?

[–]ctvzbuxr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I totally understand. That's not how I meant it. I was pointing out that Islam is an ideology worthy of criticism, as are most belief systems.

[–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

He is, at least, immutable in his beliefs.

All the others who suddenly became muslim-loving once it's talking about China are the ones who will gladly sell themselves to Shariah law if it will suit them.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is retarded, bro. You don't have to like Islam to think it's not OK to imprison people, cut of their hair and murder them for their organs like they're some kind of farm animal.

[–]BiologicalMolecule 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

These people are literally trying to promote their anti-Muslim agenda on a post about concentration camps. You really think anything they say is NOT retarded?

[–]magnora7[S] 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (12 children)

This can't be ignored, this is appalling. According to reddit comments they're being taken to forced labor camps.

[–]DessieArdrey 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

So? China makes it's prison population productive. Seems smart as why should scum be a burden on a society? They also have a much lower % imprisoned than the US, which also uses prisoners as slave labor and actively seeks to fill prisons for the direct purpose to have more labor. As to China's treatment of muslims, do you think this treatment which looks far better than old George Floyd had is somehow worse than what America does to muslims it doesn't like? Like drone striking family gathers and weddings? In foreign countries too. Or how about using strange legal loop holes to imprison people without due process and torture them also in foreign countries. I am sorry but the real criminal when it comes to treating muslims bad is America.

[–]jet199 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What nonsense.

Muslims have birth freedom, opportunity and safety in the US, that's why they want to go there. Most muslim countries treat muslims far worse than any country in the West.

[–]DessieArdrey 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

HAHAHA who treats muslims the worst in other countries??? THE USA, bomb, bomb, bomb those sand niggars and destroy their civilization for greater Israel!

Seriously you argue in bad faith. I talk about prisoners in general and also Americas treatment of muslims in general, not just inside the US which is obviously good, the same as in China if they behave. You think China is doing this for no reason? American intel has fostered trouble in the region with bombings occurring. So rather than just drop bombs on them China is seeking to change their character to be less destructive unlike American effort to the opposite.

[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

niggars

Well there's no way a racist would have been making a Richard Pryor reference, so I'm just gonna say you don't know how to spell.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even in military campaigns Muslims are more often killed by Muslim governments.

Your problem is you have a highly US centric worldview. America isn't the world. All people can think for themselves and do bad things without being told to by some white guy. Get outside your bubble.

[–]NorfolkTerrier 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right that we do not show enough respect/dignity to foreigners in warfare, but we don't put our own citizens in concentration camps based on their ethnicity or religion.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, if we assume those people should be in prison in the first place, which they probably shouldn't.

[–]King_Brutus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hol the fuck up, did you just compare rounding up people based on their religion to the death of a criminal who was resisting arrest and had a history of crime?

If Muslims are treated so badly in America why are they constantly itching to get over here?

[–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

China makes it's prison population productive.

Interesting to note that all the "prisoners" seem to have been shaved.

[–]africant 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

relax i'm sure they have a good reason. nothing to see here

[–]clayrab 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Someone said it on reddit, so it must be true.

[–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol according to redditors saidit is run by neonazis

[–]BIKERBITCH 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (71 children)

I have a friend that is a muslim ughyers, and they are in a power struggle with the chinese government.

chinese party is not a democracy, so dont fuck with china or china will fuck you up.

china does not tolerate a bunch of bullshit like antifa, etc.

off to reeducation camp you go..

if you fuck with the bull, you get the horns.

[–]magnora7[S] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (33 children)

Yeah that bull might find itself without many supporters if it keeps attacking everyone with its horns like it has.

[–]BIKERBITCH 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

on the shallow level that you play on, mister magnora, supporters are important pieces of the puzzle.

but, china plays on a deeper level, they are sharks that like to swim in deeper waters..

compared to the masterful mentality of the chinese communist party, you are like an infant that sports a messy diaper.

you and your little forum is like a fart in a heavy wind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuMhqrFOSYE

[–]magnora7[S] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Lol what ridiculous tripe. China is weak when it overexpands and will probably collapse internally from instability, if history shows us anything. Ruling by fear rarely works for long.

[–]DessieArdrey 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Show me a government not backed by violence? Go on go challenge the US system, we will see how much fear there is. Try running from a police officer when he is arresting you. As you die from the bullets to your back, you'll know fear.

Magnora7 I really had higher hopes for you not falling for deep state propaganda so easily...

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    [–]DessieArdrey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No I am playing devils advocate. I like doing it and American propaganda and hypocrisy irritates me. There is currently a program to prime the public for war with China. That war will be the last. To actively seek to walk into such a war is biblically evil. I hope when you get called up you run, if it makes it to that stage...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWOyfLBYtuU

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't think you understand the meaning of this song. This is a reference to Jesus talking with a gentile woman, where he denies her claiming he only came for the Israelites. She compares gentiles with dogs that eat the bread crumbs of their masters and he agrees to help her.
    "Dog days are over" means the days of the gentiles being in control is over.

    [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I can be anti-CCP and anti-deep state at the same time you foolish person

    [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    people don't get shot for fleeing/evading, they get shot for looking like they have a weapon. when someone flees it give the cops more of a reason to suspect they have something they're hiding, and certain movements, like pulling up sagging pants, may be misconstrued as reaching for a weapon in the waistband.

    [–]clayrab 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    CCP enjoys 80-95% approval from it's populace. Nothing to do about fear, sorry. Chinese people are more scared of US than CCP for obvious reasons.

    [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    CCP enjoys 80-95% approval from it's populace.

    I doubt the real numbers are anywhere near that high. People say they approve because they're afraid to say anything else, that doesn't mean they actually approve

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yikes.

    [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I woulda banned your IP for those words instantly. Imagine coming to someone else's house and displaying that barnyard animal foul speak.

    [–]BIKERBITCH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

    thats ok, buck the bull and your family will be blacklisted and you will sent to a work camp or a death camp.

    in the new world, problem children will not be tolerated.

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    Meh, not everyone is under china's influence. China is fragile, as ever. China's Empire shatters every 100 years, it's practically on a schedule. Seems we're about due again... CCP always overplays their hand. They've already destroyed so much of the foreign goodwill they've spent 3 decades building. Truly a shame. Maybe they can rediscover their honor if the people (like Hong Kong) demand it.

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      [–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      False. All you need to do is look at a timeline.

      Correct. But don't fall into the trap all things repeat. Although this timeline has become more certain as it progresses, much effort has been made to change it. Some very interesting things are yet to occur. It will be a musk to watch :-)

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      do you think China will collapse like the USSR did? The Russian Federation still has a lot of square miles. The USA is also quite large. To be honest I am surprised such nation states last this long, I think technology helps them keep their populaces docile.

      [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      No I think China will collapse like China did 100 years ago, and 200 years ago, and 300 years ago. They always break apart in to civil war. That's the problem with trying to rule 1.3 billion people with an iron fist

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I think due to technology these collapses are becoming less frequent, and that is the lesson and prediction from 1984.

      [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Perhaps, but I'm sure people said the same about the printing press. In fact I think it might make them more frequent, as people can see the atrocities more easily. That's why the TV media stopped broadcasting war footage to Americans after The Vietnam war. Because Americans got really upset about it when it was in front of them every day.

      That's why China has the firewall, but more and more people know how to use VPNs to bypass the firewall. The main thing keeping China intact is the economic success of the new middle class. If that ever stops, the leadership is in trouble and they know it.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      and yeah the printing press has made them less frequent. not down to 0% just that since then empires have lasted longer. But that was of course not as perfect as current technology, made it a bit harder to censor, someone might use a printing press to print factual pamphlets and they spread. They'd burn books but it was a bit harder to find them to burn them than on the internet. Of course they would prefer to control the source and control who owned printing presses. In some places it was made illegal and books were held in private collections. Nowadays it seems the printed word is dying out, people don't read physical books anymore. I have a lot of great ones on my shelf. Certain websites get deleted, youtube videos hidden, certain writers or philosophers get cancelled. At least I still have the books. USA might have already collapsed if the internet was never invented. The 60s were a time of a lot of strife. Media was controlled by CIA at least by the 70s. There were a lot of movements though. I know people protest today but they're really just having an excuse to party and loot. Old boomers from the 60s and 70s are the only ones really protesting it seems to me.

      Hard for me to say what life is like in China, how many really use a VPN there, out of a billion plus people I'm guessing not that many. I agree their middle class is important to them, I think their leadership just mainly doesn't want them graduating from middle to upper class and threatening their status. The middle class is like the outer party of 1984, a buffer between the elites and the proles. Some sort of middle class is probably always going to be allowed but they don't want it getting delusions of grandeur.

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        [–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        There could be splitting, you are just looking at the wrong nation. If you are in the US it should be more than slightly obvious which nation may split...

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        China isn't a country. It's an empire of provinces that are always aching to break away from the usually corrupt government in the capital.

        [–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        USA is lasting this long because it has only two bordering nations.

        China is lasting this long because they have world market by the balls and are not afraid to beat any hostile element into a bloody pulp.

        As for Russian Federation, it will collapse sooner or later - there is not much legacy of USSR infrastructure to parasite on and Russia are squeezed between corrupt government and no less corrupt randroids, both of which are interested only in their personal wealth at the expense of general population.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        well I mean why is it they only have two bordering nations, it started as 13 colonies, everything got slowly united over years, USA also has alaska, hawaii, and many other terrirtories and nations where we have permanent bases like germany and Japan.

        [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

        Here's what I don't get. On one side are backwards religious hillbillies. They refuse to adapt to a changing world, have no job skills, and react violently.

        On the other side is a government of rationalists. Educated people who are scientists and engineers, atheists who know the sky fairy doesn't exist. They are reacting by helping the hillbillies become educated, learn job skills for the 21st century, and if they don't want it they are forced, for their own good.

        Why are we on the side of the deplorables and not on the side of the smart people?

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Lol people like you make extremist leftists SJW types look sane by comparison.

        The type of people who you are supporting are more suppressive of freedom of speech and more extreme than them.

        Leftists, on the other hand, freely use censorship as a weapon of first resort. Their own positions are so weak that if people are allowed to point out the many problems, they would collapse.

        I find it ironic that someone who appears to supports freedom of speech and non-SJW liberalism is supporting communists forcing a minority ethnic and religious group into theirs the same way the Spanish did in the Spanish Inquisition. I guess according to your logic, your atheistic views are so weak, that you need to put millions of people in re-education camps to have your views accepted.

        I guess oppression, going against freedom of religion, ethnic cleansing and genocide, and "civilizing backwards people", and censorship is fine if you hate the victim's religion.

        And funny how you seem to ignore how violent these communists are, they are many many many many many times more violent than even the likes of ISIS:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Estimates

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism#Estimated_number_of_victims

        These "enlightened rational" atheists sure "helped" the Afghans and Cham muslims of Cambodia.

        Looks to me like you have an irrational hatred of Uyghurs and their religion than anything else.

        [–]VoiceOfTheMillenium 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Why America financed durkas in Afghanistan despite USSR being much better alternative to radical Islamists?

        Because Americans are retarded.

        Every time they whine about 9/11 I fucking laugh, because it's the bed that Amerifats have made themselves.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Is having a communist empire superpower that is pointing many nukes, threatening a genocide that the world have never seen before really worse than the small time guerilla groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS?

        Look at this incident:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident

        Would you prefer living in a world where a global nuclear war can happen worse than something like 9/11?

        [–]cynical_americano 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        As an American i am for freedom, and one of the most sacred freedoms in America is the freedom of religious practice. If people don't want to evolve, that's their right. Nobody should be forced into it, especially not in such a way as forced labor camps. You're acting like these camps are fucking technical schools. They aren't.

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        But we hate people who don't evolve, remember? They're deplorable!

        The hillbillies are learning skills that will help them find jobs after release. They're also being shown that their religion is bullshit. By a government of smart people, atheists.

        As an American, you want to, what, invade China or something? The world hates world police BS. Americans have been told to back the fuck off and stop bullying many many times.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Speak for yourself...

        [–]Belisarius 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

        You can't fucking compare an ethnical group like Uyghurs with fucking Antifa

        [–]BIKERBITCH 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (31 children)

        both groups resist their governments.

        edit: watch your mouth, you speak with dirty words like a pig.

        [–]Belisarius 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (29 children)

        Are you Chinese?

        It's just ridiculous to compare an ethnic group with a political organization.

        To be part of antifa implies you atleast agree with their message, but being Uyghur is something you're born with. Is every Chinese person a communist? Was every German in 1940 a Nazi? Ofcourse not; ideology is not ethnicity.

        When was the last time Uyghurs commited terrorism? Most Uyghurs probably just want to live in peace, they aren't even allowed to practice their culture and religion.

        Does every Uyghur inherently "resist their government"? No, since they don't choose being born Uyghur. On the other hand, Antifa is an organization with a goal - to be part of them implies you agree with that goal.

        Like I said, not comparable.

        [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

        In truth the CCP is what happens when Antifa get a whiff of power. They are kindred spirits.

        [–]Narrator 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        We already have struggle sessions in this country. ANTIFA are the fanatical red guards.

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

        Unfortunately when anti-fascists get together, we rarely get much accomplished because first we all need to talk. It's like herding cats, if you recall occupy wall street. That's what happens when you share power democratically, it's messy AF.

        CCP are straight fascists. Would hate to be Christian, Muslim, Tibetan or HKer in today's China. Economically they are kicking ass tho.

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

        CCP are straight fascists.

        There's no need to apply a political ideology to them they don't ascribe to. They're communists. All other communist regimes have been roughly the same. Fascists are somewhat different. Why twist these terms in the way you are doing if you're not ultimately trying to defend communism?

        Economically they are kicking ass tho.

        Yes slavery kicks arse, doesn't it? And they have made slaves of their entire population. That's communism for you.

        [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Why twist these terms in the way you are doing if you're not ultimately trying to defend communism?

        Because he is trying to blame fascism and defend communism.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Sutton's next three published books (Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and FDR and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler) detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[5] as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same "corporate socialism," planned by the big corporations.[6] Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[3] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth" because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market."[7]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Cope. It's all capitalism's fault, somehow.

        [–]DessieArdrey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You like using that word :-) Cope. Capitalism is really good and responsible for the rise of China. China has managed though to prevent some of the weak points that arose in the US. Things like IP, like copyright and patents, they aren't really capitalist ideas though but some strange non natural state arrangement.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        capitalism, fascism, communism, socialism, all the same run by same people, divide and conquerism.

        [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Sutton concluded that it was all part of the economic power elites

        He's almost there.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        true his research had found it was skull and bones

        they work for someone else

        [–]DessieArdrey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        You might think that China is not facist because et communism and all, but trust me they are nearly as fascist as hitler's germany...Now admittedly the Chinese are not Germans but they are not far from them either, so how do you think America and Europe would have handled 1.5 billion Germans? Trustme there would never have been any America if Germany had such a population.

        The Chinese are not Germans or Europeans, they are far far more patient and have a much deeper and longer culture of civilization. China will say they never would want war right up until the point 100's of millions of them have either immigrated or are on boats and the nukes are falling, they probably would still be saying they don't want war after they have landed, stuck a knife in you and are cooking your remains to eat over a fire they made from your furniture. Americans really don't have the stomach for how the Chinese will fight. Fat American will surely be quite tasty!

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Cope. Anything to deflect from communism.

        China can be simply destroyed with sanctions. Your idolisation of them is truly pathetic.

        You know what this Uighars thing is? It's not the holocaust mk. 2, it's the Gulag Archipelago mk. 2. The last desperate attempt of a failing economy to prop itself up with slave labour now the majority of its population are too wealthy to put up with shit conditions. It's the beginning of the end for China.

        [–]DessieArdrey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        No I am not deflecting I am stating a fact. Have you travelled China?, interacted much with the people? They are facists. I don't get how you would think portraying them as facists vs communists somehow makes them look better because to me it makes them look worse...

        China can be weakened with sanctions but so will America. Sanctions would need to be global and it is not certain that can be achieved, China has far too many strong trade partners. They also have far too many strong cultural ties. All of Asia and the Pacific is ethnically Chinese. China is continuing to grow it's influence at a fantastic pace while America is withering. I think the biggest error in Americas strategy will come when Japan (also Chinese) breaks from it's American chains. If China can mend relations with Japan it's game over for America in the region.

        Strange thing but people respond better to cheap nice products at the shop vs drone striking weddings and invading lots of nations to make vassal states. Rome made the same mistake too so don't worry your not the first empire to get it wrong.

        As to the Uyghurs they are tiny tiny portion of the Chinese population like Hong Kong or North Korean is, they are not important for their labor. A few days of the Han fucking could replace them entirely. What China is not going to do is give one inch to what America wants which is to weaken China. Rather than destructive wars like America and it's master Israel engage in to suppress muslims, China is carefully and thoroughly putting them through programs to change. It really does show the insanity and evilness of the American culture that some how war and destruction is more desired than some far less destructive alternative....look around you American you are reaping what you have sown, just as Jesus tried to teach you, as the Buddha taught the east and many gurus before.... When your civilizations is burning and in ruins I hope then you might realize.

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Behold the fourteen points of fascism. Please point out any of these features not being enthusiastically pursued by the CCP.

        https://www.favreau.info/misc/14-points-fascism.php

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Oh god not that bullshit list again. Same list has been used to declare Trump a fascist, and the Tories in the UK.

        [–]sudd3nclar1ty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Little brain goes brrr...yeah facism actually has an agreed upon meaning quite different than your ignorant opinion. This could be an opportunity for you to actually learn something.

        Nahhh :)

        [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Fascists? Huh? They are communists. The diametrical opposite of fascists.

        Jeez, you people really do call anyone you don't like a fascist.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Clearly fascism and communism are the same thing if you judge by goals and results. The difference in marketing doesn't really matter in the end. At the end of the day a socialist totalitarian system is a socialist totalitarian system.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Historically communism used a similar model. Problem, solution. Antifa type groups cause the "problem" and the groups like the CCP come in and pretend to be the solution. Its like a repeat of 100 years ago.

        [–]Nelumbo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        When was the last time Uyghurs commited terrorism?

        🙄

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Aksu_bombing

        7+ dead, 14+ wounded.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Kashgar_attacks

        23+ dead, 42+ wounded.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2014_%C3%9Cr%C3%BCmqi_attack

        43 dead, 90+ wounded.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China#Xinjiang

        There have been no terrorist attacks in Xinjiang since 2017, mainly because of the Chinese governments harsh responses against it such as mass surveillance, increased arrests, and a system of "re-education camps".

        Hmmm... I wonder if the right wingers on this site would support anti-jihadist re-education if it prevented terrorist attacks like the Manchester Arena bombing.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        ter•ror•ism tĕr′ə-rĭz″əm►

        n.
        The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals.
        n.
        Resort to terrorizing methods as a means of coercion, or the state of fear and submission produced by the prevalence of such methods.
        n.
        The act of terrorizing, or state of being terrorized; a mode of government by terror or intimidation.
        

        The main topic (video) of this post clearly falls under the definition of terrorism, assuming terrorist acts are actually a concern of yours.

        [–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Just disproving the American propaganda Belisarius has been fed about Uyghurs supposedly never committing terrorism.

        When muslims engaged in terrorism against America, 9/11, America's attempt to curb jihadism resulted in 208,000+ civilian deaths as a result of the Iraq war. America is more of a terrorist country than China.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Not sure, but I think you're agreeing with my comment.

        [–]Nelumbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Possibly. I don't know what the best way of dealing with jihadism would be, I just know America certainly hasn't handled things in a better way.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Not really. Antifa use state-sanctioned violence to enforce neoliberalism.

        [–]PencilPusher55 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Yeah man but a labor camp is a bit extreme... Listen, I am no fan of the way the media portrays the Muslim religion. They get cut way too much slack and essentially cover up any type of atrocities they commit in the places they take refuge in (Sweden, Germany, Ect). With that being said - it doesn't mean that we should just turn away. This shit is horrific.

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        If there were any problem, the Umma would be on the job. We haven't heard a peep from them, so how is it we're supposed to get upset?

        We learned from the Bosnian bombings that if we intervene on the side of Muslims it earns us exactly zero credit with the Umma.

        [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Well we did get some love after we helped out with the 2004 tsunami (mostly because their local religious leaders who spouted "death to the west" showed themselves up to be useless). Some muslim populations are more reasonable than others.

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        In Indonesia? No way, they despise us. No matter what we do. If aid arrives it is Allah confounding the infidels and causing it to happen.

        [–]FormosaOolong 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

        This is horrific. The blindfolds take the awfulness to a new level. How do we still live in a world like this?

        [–]DessieArdrey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I think the blindfolds are brilliant. What a great method to increase control.

        [–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        And the shaved heads bring to mind that recent multi-ton shipment of hair that was captured.

        [–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        What?! Shudder!

        [–]christnmusicreleases 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (21 children)

        God help the Muslim Uighurs.

        [–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

        God won't do shit.

        [–]christnmusicreleases 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        You'd be surprised what God will / won't do.

        [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Prediction: He won't help the Uighurs.

        [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah, most likely he'll blow the Yellowstone super volcano so those oppressed Chinese will have no one left who cares about their rights.

        [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

        God is what got them into this mess.

        Atheists are setting things to rights.

        [–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        No, a false God is what got them into this mess (Satan). Atheists ain't doing nothing here.

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        The CPC is officially atheist. They are rationalists, educated people dedicated to stamping out backwards violent religious hillbillies and giving them an education so they can participate in 21st century life.

        [–]christnmusicreleases 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

        The CCP is eliminating the culture of all ethnic minorities within their borders. It's genocide no matter how nice you shine the turd.

        [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        Who told you that? These are just the violent religious nutbags. Atheists are on the job, providing education and job training. It's for their own good.

        [–]christnmusicreleases 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

        No, they are enslaving an entire cultural group. They force them to mix marry to remain citizens.

        You should inform yourself more:

        13 Tons of Human Hair Shipped From China | Uyghur Persecution with Nury Turkel

        China Unscripted #78: China's Slow Motion Uyghur Genocide

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Smells like fake propaganda.

        If there were any actual problem, the Muslim world would be up in arms. Literally. Like, sending suicide bombers to Beijing. They did this to us for far, far less.

        [–]christnmusicreleases 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        Fake propaganda = truth (double negative)

        So I guess we'll have to agree it's true. And it's pretty obvious you are a 50 cent shill.

        [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Let Muslims take care of Islamic problems. Getting between two warring sides is a great way to be hated by both. The world hates America when it tries to play World Police. Time to stop.

        After all, the current protests have shown America to have zero moral legitimacy. Why should anyone listen to us?

        [–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You think Islamist actually care about muslims rather than hating the West and the modern world?

        That's cute.

        Muslim are by far the majority of victims of Islamic terrorism.

        They are the BLM of Islam.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        THe "Muslim world"...You mean the Saudi Semites working closely with their jewish cousins in manufacturing terrorism?....Btw currently on hiatus due to a far better invisible enemy of the West, Covid-666

        [–]H3v8 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        The Uighurs have strong ties to Turkey and many travel there to get directions. But China is not that easy to mess with and won't become the next Syria.

        [–]H3v8 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Through the centuries they forbade their daughters to marry outsiders. It's typical Muslim strategy that you can approach other women and get them into your faith, but the reverse is strictly out of the question.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Funny how you are defending the proven most deadly type of atheists in the world:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Estimates

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism#Estimated_number_of_victims

        You should really look in the mirror, the Chinese and other communists are the true "violent religious nutbags". Or is China paying you to speak nonsense?

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        How do you delete accounts so fast?

        I'm not going to reply to ghosts.

        [–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        One would think you're just giving sloppy arguments so that a war will start and you'll have the chance of being rescued from the prison camp they're keeping you at.

        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Would you like to refute the argument that athiest rationalists are crushing backwards religious crackpots, or just sling insults and wallow at the bottom of the pyramid of debate?

        [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Genuinely terrifying.

        [–]jet199 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

        Meanwhile in the West ...

        http://imgur.com/a/g1nTies

        [–]PencilPusher55 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

        I'm not genius but I cannot imagine being that dumb.

        [–]Jesus-Christ 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        He isn't dumb either. Matter of fact he probably knows exactly what he's doing, which is worse.

        [–]PencilPusher55 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

        Fuck, so I AM dumber than him!

        [–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        But you're still a better person.

        [–]D0z 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        I guess they don't care about social distancing anymore

        [–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Who made this drone footage?
        Probably the Chinese government.
        So why is it online? And what is the real story behind it?

        [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        It could be faked, but if it was faked it wouldn't be the Chinese gov't doing the faking. It would be like the US gov't, just speaking from a motives perspective.

        But the most likely case is that this is real footage, and China is probably very unhappy it's out there.

        That's the thing about doing so much totalitarian stuff... eventually some of it gets noticed

        [–]DessieArdrey 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        It is likely from an American operative in China. Quite risky but this type of drone activity is quite common in China.

        [–]whistlepig 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I agree. After Trump's recent announcement of major sanctions and the like it would be surprising if they didn't release such clips. And it is pretty clear that m5m wouldn't do it if they were asked, so it makes sense that it would be done in this manner.

        Like it are not, we (USA) are very much in the middle of a cold war with China with the potential of becoming warm on occasion. We're definitely in a full blown propaganda war. I think it is likely the covid lockdown and the resulting race wars are being played by both parties for the sake of their goals. The latter probably more from China, though.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        [–]H3v8 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You mean Americans repeat the Afghanistan experiment?

        [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Slavery is still very much alive in China, you leftist hacks.

        [–]Nightjar 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        So that is what real oppression looks like?

        [–]Raavan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Kind of makes the """Nazis""" in the rest of the world tame by comparison, doesn't it? One says trans women are men, while the other says uighur Muslims are not human.

        [–]Dragonerne 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        The uighurs were heterodox christians that ruled over the biggest asian empire, hence the "chinese" wall seperating this great empire and China.
        They had defeated China and controlled northern china. The current world powers defeated this empire and have been rewriting history and completely (almost) removed any mention of it. Today its refered to as nomads, steppe peoples, vast area of land (not kingdom), and the confederation is split as if it didn't exist and each member described as having their own unique history unrelated to the others. You've probably heard about the mongolian/golden horde or the mongolian empire. Mongolians were savage forest people. They didn't control anything.

        The funny thing is that this empire was defeated in the past 100-150 years yet no one knows about it.
        https://storage.googleapis.com/raremaps/img/xlarge/57454mp2.jpg

        [–]PencilPusher55 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

        So, what happens to them? Is it as simple as people being taken into camps purely based on their religion? I never hear the end of the holocaust, how is this not exploding on the news?

        [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        They're being taken to forced labor sites from what I understand.

        [–]DessieArdrey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        One of Chinas most famous leaders Deng Xiaoping spent over a decade in a "forced labor camp", it is not as bad as it sounds. After all we all mostly live in open air "force labor camps" it's called life. The Chinese mobile execution vans are far more terrifying, created to reduce the mess from shooting people on the spot...

        [–]ctvzbuxr 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        "Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
        -Abraham Lincoln

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        FUCK THE CCP

        [–]ehkodiak 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yup, but for whatever reason it's seeing the light of day now, and I saw it for the first time, so it's broken through and reached critical mass so lots of people have seen it now and they can't put the cat back in the bag.

        [–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        Does Al Jazeera report on this at all? I'd have thought Moslems all over would raise hell about knowing how their brothers are treated.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        M0slems are not a brotherhood or a tribe like the Jewish cabal for instance. It's just eastern people who have been given a holy religion for overall improvement. Like Christianity.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Christians used to care about fellow Christians suffering in other countries.

        I guess it all changed after they converted en masse to Judeo-Xtianism.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Well, not care per se but more get an excuse to war and pillage... No humans care enough to go to war for someome else other than their immediate family, it's just the way it is. No religion or crede will ever change that... It's all about self interest

        [–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        That a yes or no?

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        [–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Thank you kindly, ma'am.

        [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        No problem boomer

        [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        They don't actually care. Just like BLM don't actually care about most black lives.

        [–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        That a yes or no?

        [–]sadocgawkroger 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Such a sad sight

        [–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        UK petition to get the government to put sanctions on China. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300146

        [–]sproketboy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Meanwhile on reddit "Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Damnthatsinteresting."

        [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        共匪

        [–]DessieArdrey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        [–]gof-urself2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Drone footage of Uighurs being taken away... allegedly

        [–]pwaully 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        OMG! Why is no one (including the Muslim countries) doing anything about it? They are all so buddy buddy with the Chinese!

        [–]Newmug 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        People are fucked up. The world is a fucked up place. And to think there's fools actively trying to bring communism to the sane parts of the world.

        [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Here's the source video on YT. Please make a copy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGYoeJ5U7cQ

        [–]Mein_Tarnaccount 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        My dick is so conflicted right now