The COVID-19 mortality rate is turning out to be around 0.3% instead of 3-4%

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[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But why did china have so many cases of people collapsing in the street then?

Why did china have to lock down entire cities, with rioting, zombie traffic jams, spraydowns, and welding people into their homes?

My overreaction was because what I saw in china was genuine death, panic, fear, and a clearly overwhelmed medical system, plus the censorship.

Why has no other country experienced that? Do you think there is a chance some of the wuhan videos that leaked out were deep fakes? Do you think there are different strains? Or that something else could have been causing those people to collapse?

So much contradictory information and it is like tv journalists just change their tune from day to day, and censor both serious, non-esoteric doctors AND david icke at the same time. To me it seems like they are not so much disputing their facts, as denying them the chance to be popular, and preserving their spot as the only credible sources, when they are not credible.

Which is freaky, spooky, and plainly tyrannical. Which is to say, you can use youtube as a platform, but if you ever have success, for any reason, you get censored and your users redirected to propaganda.

That is also plainly evil. So who owns and calls the shots at youtube? Youtube music head is a guy named Lyor, and he is from a certain country in the middle east.

[–]Robin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I haven't seen the videos, but if it was man made, I suspect it might be more likely to lose characteristics it was engineered for than if it emerged naturally. So maybe it was more dangerous than the current version.

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you think they might have engineered and released a viral bioweapon that degraded in the wild to mutate to be less dangerous?

That is a pretty wild speculation. Would not then there be different versions of this virus captured in different locations?

That is one of the things that confuses me the most, where are the scientists who are collecting strainss from multiple locations confirming it is the same thing, and whether it is mutating?

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.29.069054v1.full.pdf

Non peer reviewed paper from last week that lists over a dozen mutations, mostly pretty rare at the moment, but at least one (D614G) seems to be outcompeting its original form. Another one (S943P) is found only in Belgium and is apparently spreading through recombination - i.e. coinfection with other strains in one host allowing different mutations to recombine into a single, fitter, virus. Concerning stuff, especially with a new virus. They may favour re-infectability, i.e. shortening the immunity after a first infection, so the disease becomes an annual event. Note that as of last week Belgium had the highest case fatality rate in the world, >15% :-(

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/ - "In China, the CFR was higher in the early stages of the outbreak (17% for cases from 1 to 10 January) and reduced to 0.7% for patients with symptom onset after 1 February." So the first strain might have been really damaging to humans, and got outcompeted by one that was not as deadly but faster spreading (or just not as deadly, since killing people very fast is not a good way to spread widely).

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, this is informative. Thank you.

17 percent to .7 percent then to .3 percent in california, idk man that is the backwards this plays in the michael crichton novel...

On the other hand it is chaotic, unpredictable, and if this is the key information, no one is saying it on tv, when this is what we need to be watching and making sure our statistics are correct, globally, or there will be no way to calculate any risk.

And idk about you, but if my own psyche is any indication, this "constant uncertainty all of the time" thing is getting old and we are going to start to see people less inclined to balance really start losing it. Plus the unemployment issue, and capital flow issue like rent strikes, and that is what makes me really think the people who are really in the know have a whole other thing going on that is going to either make that irrelevant, or use it to their advantage.

Because they are certainly not being forthcoming with relevant info like this and pushing agendas that nobody wants 24 7.