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[–]roastpotatothief 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

At first all the data was unreliable. It's not pure junk but close to it. Nobody thought the real death rate was 3-4%. It was always known that the data was pessimistic, for the reasons given above and others, but we just didn't know by how much. A 1% morbidity would still be very serious.

The morbidity isn't the bad thing about covid. It's the rate of untreatable viral pneumonia. This keeps people in ICU for weeks consuming beds and people's time. So hospitals have to do harsher triaging.

That said, lockdown is not the best treatment for this disease. Contact tracing, masks, preventing indoor crowds (especially pubs) are necessary. You also need a lockdown but only in nursing homes. This has also been known from the beginning, but governments have been ignoring the advice.

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

What do you think about the videos out of china where people collapse in the street and welding doors shut, etc? Why did wuhan have a zombie apocalypse reaction, and full on censorship, if there was nothing to hide and nothing dangerous?

I cannot reconcile this, can you?

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

China's CDC was at EVENT 201. China's cronies are capitalists and internationalists. EVENT 201 is the smoking gun in my honest opinion.

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you catch the 201 number in the westworld finale sunday?

It was written large in spraypaint in one of the riot scenes. The "21"s, "oro" and "119/911" numbering is gaslighting us, like it is so obvious, but anyone who "gets too conspiratorial" is very quickly labeled as a kook.

But yes there is a clear agenda going on that matches up with the rumors of agenda 21, and I didnt even really believe it was real until bill gates' batshit over the last year being presented nearly as a messianic figure on cnn.

I dont believe in numerology and the significance of sacred special digits, but other people clearly do.

[–]roastpotatothief 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know that much about chinese politics. I can tell you about the French reaction is you like, or I can tell you about something different:

When you have an epidemic in farm animals, you first isolate them into as small groups as possible. Then you see which groups are infected and kill the lot (if they are cheap like chickens), or else try to cure them (if they are expensive like cattle). Then you quarantine the survivors before letting them mix with the other groups.

If you don't care about the welfare of your animals, their civil rights or social needs, this is the most effective way of eradicating an epidemic. Even even very minor epidemics can be handled this way, if it's convenient to do so.

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are no politics in china because it is a totalitarian single party state, everything that happens there is an expression of raw power determined in backroom deals.

Politics is of necessity public, when there are no public debates about real power, that is when you have a dictatorship.

You did not answer my questions though, the videos of people collapsing and welding doors shut are not politics, that is just a news report, did you believe them or not?

And if you believe them why did this not happen anywhere else?

[–]roastpotatothief 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

link?

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I cannot do your research and thinking for you.

I can however give you a tip because I am nice, Jennifer Zeng at Epoch Times has a twitter that posted numerous such videos from wuhan in march.

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1157340902567948290

But if you have to ask, that is a sign your methods for getting information are not working very well, so you may want to work on that.

4chan /pol and r/conspiracy have information, but you have to do the work of sorting through all the disinfo.

The ratio is about 99:1, but the payoff is reality.

[–]roastpotatothief 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She posts an awful lot of videos but i guess you mean this one?