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[–]the_hun 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Which disproves man-made-in-a-lab conspiracies; it's not weapon grade. It was the bat-eaters.

[–]magnora7[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The mortality rate doesn't prove or disprove that it was man-made.

It seems likely it came out of China's only level 4 biolab located in Wuhan, since they were specifically doing coronavirus mutation research. Either that or some western power made it and leaked it in Wuhan to frame China. Or it could be natural.

My money is on it being made in China and accidentally leaking out. Second most-likely is it mutated naturally. Third-most likely is the west framing China scenario. In my opinion. I haven't seen evidence to rule out any of those 3 scenarios out entirely yet though.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I'm with you, only i think it came from fort detrick originally.

[–]Robin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You think "EVALI" is of any relation? I've never heard of that before tbh.

Great site btw!

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Certain aspects fit, such as the male bias. The timing and location also kind of fits. So it could be a cover for otherwise hard to explain deaths. Then again, one wouldn't expect it to die down, so I'm not sure. Did it really do that? Or was it masked by other stats? Short of doing autopsies on the affected, who can say?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Very true. I honestly didn't even take this into consideration. But everything you said is completely valid. And it's funny how at one point the MSM was making a point to say it was "vaping products strictly from China" (iirc) that were causing this issue.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Excellent. Thanks Robin!

[–]Robin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This bit seems to have data entry probs:

November 2019

ABC News reported in April 2020 that the National Center for Medical Intelligence (based in Fort Detrick) had warned the White House that "a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting."[40]

In late March 2020 Reuters reported that Italian researchers are looking at whether a higher than usual number of cases of severe pneumonia and flu in Lombardy in the last quarter of 2019 may be a signal that the new coronavirus might have spread beyond China earlier than previously thought.[41]

[–]jmichaelhudsondotnet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not really, there are still probably multiple strains, and there are credible reports of "inserts" that are very odd in the structure of the virus.

Further, at this point, mere civilians like us can never verify anything like a bioweapon, that we have no chance of verifying ourselves, so everything we believe about these things is based upon the logical structure of who we trust and find credible, which for most people at the moment is itself dealing with "viral" media that is as dangerous as it is contagious...

The meta, the virtual, is what informs us over real life and death issues in 2020, and people are probably also going to start to stop believing even what they see with their own eyes, and start believing deep fakes.

At some point we will learn that we need trust a lot more than money, and losing trust is just as deadly as losing oxygen. Just ask the people who were probably killed by unnecessary ventilator application.

[–]comments 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mere civilians like us can never verify anything like a bioweapon, that we have no chance of verifying ourselves, so everything we believe about these things is based upon the logical structure of who we trust and find credible

well idk about that. The sequence is out there, y'know? The papers about how to make viruses that aren't classified have been published. Sure there's probably some classified stuff but there's a lot that's not. We can do some amount of investigation ourselves even with little expertise.