17 people have died outside China from the Coronavirus as of Feb 22, 2020. Compared to 2,345 deaths within China.

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[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

If you put the graphs on the page in 'logarithmic' mode you can see them flattening off. If this was truly exponential growth, they'd be a straight line in a logarithmic graph. So the fact they're flattening off is a good indicator.

The disparity between the number of deaths in China and the rest of the world is quite drastic. Especially considering it happened during Lunar New Year and all the travel associated with that.

[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

If you put the graphs on the page in 'logarithmic' mode you can see them flattening off. If this was truly exponential growth, they'd be a straight line in a logarithmic graph. So the fact they're flattening off is a good indicator.

I don't buy any of the numbers. You won't even be tested for it in the USA unless you can prove some sort of 'wuhan' contact. Then, the 'tests' are showing negative several times before a positive. Also, the R0 of this via Los Alamos Laboratories is around 6< . GLP has some great information; so far, the crack team of volunteer tinfoil hatters have been at least 2 weeks ahead of all mainstream information releases/dumps on this. As far as the numbers in the States, there are several states playing the 'hipaa' game, and stating patient confidentiality, but the Red Herring in that, is the fact that their own laws state for anything infectious to the community, basically isn't covered under Hipaa.

The fact is, I'm actually not worried about this virus in the least(for myself, and situation), I'm concerned with the economic impact, which is also shaping into the direction I thought it was going to go from the onset. Shipping between China, and here, has been slashed over 50%, and we're seeing 'soft disclosure' by the financial institutions, and mainstream media; many are taking this as the nod to prepare for any who can see.

Call me kooky, but this is ushering in population reduction in key demographics(pensioners/disabled), as well as shaping up to be an economic reset that could make The Great Depression look like a walk in the park.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWJBJq-tVsc

I can also give links to the Lancet, and several credible studies on this thing. There is a game being played, where by 'experts', or truly talking mouth pieces don't deny the studies, but quickly jump to 'non peer reviewed', and then wash rinse repeat the establishment 'don't worry, continue to consume'....

On that note, China for one single day reported cases on a clinical diagnoses; showing signs... That day jumped 15,000, and caused panic, since then, they've gone back to only via test reporting. Considering the flu kills around 80k+ a year there, and 33k+ in the States, their reaction to this, locking entire cities down, just doesn't compute with common sense considering the numbers in comparison to the flu.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Maybe organizing all this info into a contextually comprehensive Wikispooks article is in order? I'd be willing to give it a try with some help.

Great video btw.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I don't know that it's necessary; there are already many folks doing just that.... Perhaps simply downloading what's already out there, and acting as another point of back up will be the best.

One thing I've been watching is what's scrubbed. A professor Charles Leiber looked to be one of the perpetrators in this, and until a few days ago, up until his arrest a few days ago, the man's presence on the web seemed to be being erased, and in some cases real time. He's the guy who got caught selling bio-virus secrets to the Chinese.

But, forget about the virus, China doesn't need 1.5+ billion, and I think they're clearing house... Until that's done though, and right now, they're responsible for something like 25 to 30 percent of the global economy. 95% of antibiotics, and other medical products come out of there.... India is responsible for the other major portion, but get a lot of their base components from China; that supply has stopped as well.

Every day this lockdown continues, and every day the numbers are suppressed, is another day closer to that diabetic not having insulin, or take your pick of chronic, medical dependent people not having their medicine, or their machines fixed(parts).

I'm already seeing stuff I dabble in, like aftermarket car parts getting harder to come by. The Baltic dry index is in the doldrums as well.

The only aspect of the virus that I find unsettling beyond the ARDS, is the emerging aspect that it's similar to like Dengue fever, where the second round is deadlier due to ADE(antigen dependent enhancements). There's also a little concern about the nanotech these bastards have been working on, in culmination with 5G; think , "Cynthia"(sp), and research that; they've been working on a kill machine without escape for a while.

If you ever put any stock into that Albert Pike letter, Project Blue Beam or other similar work, it would stand to reason the only way it would work, is that we all accept it, because there's no other choice.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Thanks for all that info.

I don't know what you mean by starting a thread. Like a "Corona Virus" post under /s/WikiSpooks or /s/Doom?

BTW. Feel free to post requests and recommendations and stuff in WikiSpooks. Robin and I and others will get to them when we can.
(I haven't even started delving into the https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US/2020_Presidential_election/Iowa_DNC_Caucuses - maybe after this.)

Meanwhile, I reworked much of what you said into https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2019–20_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak and I'd love for you to feel free to edit it (if you want to join WikiSpooks) or tell me where I took too much editorial liberty and/or made mistakes. And/Or ping me with important updates. Also, Robin and/or others may edit that page.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Hi Jason,

Yes, I thought you meant a dedicated thread. When I get time, I'll look through what links I've got saved. There's been a lot of information that is seemingly disappearing, but at the same time, the 'tin foil hatters' are a true 2 to 3 weeks ahead of MSM disclosure.

I was out today, finishing some of my families preps, and I was shocked seeing many of the things I was on a mission to get, was already being depleted. It'll be interesting to see how this all unfolds. I'll save your link, and when I do find stuff, definitely post it there. Have a great day.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I've maxed out my number of subs.

WikiSpooks is good to archive documents and media.

Would you be interested in developing/sharing a preppers list too? I think there's a /s/Preppers and now there's a /s/Solutions. I'm also keen on expanding WikiSpooks to include alternative solutions, decentralization, off grid, DIY, prepping, aquaponics, etc.

What supplies were depleted? Maybe I should check here in Canada.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Maybe you can look over these sections that I reworked from your words, maybe help me strengthen them, make more accurate, add citations, etc:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak#Skepticism_with_greater_context

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak#Looking_into_the_void

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak#CoronaVirus_BioWeapon_NanoTechnology_Activiation

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Hey Jason,

So to be clear, I want zero recognition on any of this. What you wrote looks to be accurate. The Los Alamos study pegged the R0 at 6<. The CFE is still developing, but for those who develop pneumonia, it's looking steady at 15%; the more hospitals are overwhelmed, expect that number to go up; along with general mortality rates as people are unable to get the critical medical care for other issues.

As to the 'soft' disclosures increasing, they still are. Circulating in the MSM today are pictures in Italy of bare grocery store shelves, and an old man being interviewed, and stating,"Where's the pasta, it wasn't even this bad at the onset of WW2". Also, the CDC has within the last few hours announced that Americans should prepare. While they were stating 'prepare', and they don't know the severity it will reach, at the bottom of the press release, they mentioned severity looked to be severe. Another example is of the assistant Iranian Health Minister coming down with the virus live on air; he's been quoted as saying something along the lines of "I'm already dead".

The really worrisome benchmark I was waiting for now, has come, tomorrow, HHS, DHS, WIH, and a few others will be briefing all US Senators on the Coronavirus spread; it will be a closed meeting, and is already declared Top Secret.

The script is easy at this point, we can look at any Hollywood Screenplay now; across the board.

As far as preparedness, and lists, I wrote this recently: "A word comes to mind for the road ahead for all of us: PERSEVERANCE;

BE STRONG!

Always be aware, Know your surroundings, Move with purpose, Be Wise First, Be Merciful Second, Be ready to Respect given life, Be ready to defend You, and Yours, and most importantly Restraint, and Respect need to rule the day. "

As far as specific lists, I won't provide any; each person is in a different situation. We all need to think about what food is perishable, and what's got a little longer shelf life. I'm anticipating this being a large scale, and scary reset, but with a little prep all is 'okay'..for the most part; definitely a cheap insurance policy. I guess a single hint towards preparation, is we all need to think like the Old West Chuck Wagon Guy; that's what you need.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I deeply and profoundly apologize if I took too much liberty (I prefer having citations handy so folks don't think I'm making conspiracies up). Footnote #16 is named "HeyImSancho" and links to this post. I can easily remove it and even request that Robin remove it from the WikiSpooks page history too if you like. Granted, it might be a little late for all that in a world of NSA etc, but then SaidIt is easily archivable too, via RSS or scraping. So I hope it's not too out of line.

I'd like to "quote" your comment, and the one that follows, as I did before to add them to that article. However, I don't want to proceed before I find out what you want to do about the "credit", or lack thereof. Is it okay to simply link to the post without mentioning the commentators?

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I forgot to mention, what we're experiencing now, already meets the WHO's definition of a pandemic, it should already be declared. BUT, the WHO just in the last couple days, released a statement that they no longer will use the word 'pandemic'...... So we're in an undeclared global X. People are speculating that this is because of "WHO Bonds" that mature in July to the tune of a few hundred million; I don't know, but don't doubt it.

Also, see this article: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-update-80238-cases-2700-deaths-united-airlines-rescinds-2020-guidance-over-virus-uncertainty-2020-02-25?mod=home-page

Bear in mind where that's posted, and for those inquisitive, visit the home page, a website dedicated to investing, sure is watching the wuwu flu.

As to the WHO's declaration, Chris Martenson covered it well yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLYnomkC1fA

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you want to start a thread, I'll start dumping what I've got on it there. We're being massively lied to, and I've been watching this from day one with my own benchmarks in regards to 'what comes next', and my spidey senses are leaning towards two things, 'this is it', or they're laying the precedent for a 'fourth turning', which still leans towards 'this is it'; either way, prepare prepare prepare.

It's not just this virus, all of a sudden, within the same time frame several other very bad viruses have shown up across the world; H5n1, H5N6, H1N1, and more. Then you've got the locust plagues devouring Africa, and now spread to China, and Russia. Mix in the fires of Australia, and the flooding here, and more, and we're quickly moving to food shortages.

One of the biggest things I've been watching is for official 'disclosure', or actually a 'soft intro' to disclosing 'we're screwed'. And I'm seeing it now. Things I researched, or read a month ago, mainly on GLP are making there way to mainstream, for example this: , https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-the-coronavirus-outbreak-is-delivering-a-fresh-dose-of-recession-fear-to-the-stock-market-2020-02-22?mod=home-page

Marketwatch is owned by Dow Jones, which also owns the WSJ. All of these mainstream folks are running little 'your fucked' dissemination articles. Regular folks are starting to see it, and not just masks, but other 'consumer stuff' is starting to give way, layoffs are being announced.... Go look at the Baltic Dry Index, or the price of gold, or the dollar for that matter; people are running for shelter. This is having the outline of something like the perfect storm black swan event. And the biggest thing, they can stop it. Even their quarantine crap looks to be on par with 1980, rather than our current tech; they're letting it out.

EDIT TO ADD: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-update-more-than-76000-cases-2247-deaths-coca-cola-warns-on-impact-2020-02-21 You can find numerous mainstream articles like this now. They're letting us know a little more each day, and a little more people each day are preparing.

Think about who won't be prepared until the last minute like a black friday rush??? All the folks really not necessary for a viable society, that's who.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Almost like a perfectly engineered storm.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Is a Lunar New Year a big deal in China - or anywhere? I didn't know that was a big thing.

This says a bit, but not much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_New_Year

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's the biggest travel event on the planet. 3 billion estimated trips.

Not this years, of course.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting. I wonder why I hadn't caught that before.

Thanks for filling me in. I suspect M7 is still ignoring me.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The virus 'appeared' right before the Lunar New Year extended vacation; almost as though it was planned for peak spread globally. And yes, 5 million did leave Wuhan, and a lot of other cities left as well. China's population is still somewhat agrarian, and go back to their villages during this time. Right now, we're about 2 and a half, or so weeks past when they go back to work, but now even Beijing, and Shanghai along with all the rest are under varying degrees of quarantine.

There are videos circulating, or were, where by people throughout China were beating anyone who had a Wuhan accent; out of fear of them being infectious.