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[–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well.. a lot of people are now unable to say that certain things are just "crazy" conspiracy theory. However they are just as able to not care an iota for justice and to come out and say exactly that. I guess many of us thought the light of truth would have pushed more dragging feet than it actually did.

Which was a fair assumption. People use to be more concerned about the judgement of their peers. The times have changed.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, times have changed alright. I think when a population gets to a certain size action taken by it becomes ineffectual because the leaders [perpetrators] are so far removed from the people. Also personal moral corruption defeats people's ability to stand up for what is just. The successive US governments didn't start the practice of insane repression and overt illegal acts of war, it's as old as time itself. Nor is the practice of decrying it new, Plenty of people are on record from Nazi Germany, Stalin's Russia, The British Empire and back in the Roman days decrying acts of their governments.

The point to be learnt from all those examples and the current ones I believe is that it's pointless to fight the system. Many will argue that but they of course are not actually "Fighting the system" in any meaningful way, they are just talking about it, and I have no interest in engaging in cheap talk, of delusions of personal power. I find my time is better spent scamming the government and keeping myself off it's radar. Which is basically what they do. Scam the populace and try to keep their acts hidden.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the electoral college started cuz the founding fathers figured people voting in each state wouldn't know who the people who likel come from a different state were so wouldn't know who to vote for, which makes sense. Now we have internet and news media telling us who people like trump and biden are but they lie so is it any better?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I never trusted any politician after my twenties and the destruction of our trade unions, by a former union representative prime minister. They are all on the take one way or another.

[–]whistlepig 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I 1000% agree... but I'm not going to lie.. The gullibility of the masses always ends up surprising me. Probably says more about me than it does them. I should know better by now.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I should know better by now.

Well i don't know... It took me 10 years to give up on the average useless eater and another 5 to give up on my friends, the ones that claimed to be anti-system but who lived their lives like it was 1999. Mountains of debt, glued to the TV set, voting in all the elections, all the typical workerBee behavior. When I read these stories about millions falling into poverty it's hard to be moved by their plight because I know it's a direct result of their lifestyle in many cases. In the good times these are the people cutting you off in traffic with their brand new cars and blocking the footpaths at coffee shops. When they end up on the bones of their arse I sort of feel a sense of rightness about it all.

[–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Unfortunately the societies that we live in affect us as well.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes indeed, and you can't live in a vacuum.