My Body, My Choice

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[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

My dogs use this argument when demanding dog treats. Should I give in?

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you believe that we are owned or subjects? Are we not citizens with inalienable rights?

Second, if a vet is using a vaccine that is unsafe or ineffective I'm not going to force my dog to take it.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So you believe that we are owned or subjects? Are we not citizens with inalienable rights?

There is no "we", I don't think you and I belong to the same group. I personally don't view myself as owned, subject, or citizen. I view myself as someone living under the radar in enemy territory.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I view myself as someone living under the radar in enemy territory.

It's always nice when we can manage to see eye to eye on things.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If you told them you own them, and therefore control their bodies, it wouldn't differ significantly from our situation.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the jab has been forced on you and you didn't fight, then you are owned.

If they have to come and get you, then you are living free on prison planet Earth.

In certain eras living free is as good as it gets, but far better than a lifetime of servility.

Each individual has to choose to live free, or otherwise. It's rarely easy.
There are innumerable ways to resist.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

My dogs use this argument when demanding dog treats. Should I give in?

You stick dog treats into your dog's bodies?

You admit that you argue with your dogs? How often do they win???

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You stick dog treats into your dog's bodies?

No, I withhold dog treats from them. I am sorry that you are not capable of understanding the analogy.

You admit that you argue with your dogs? How often do they win???

I discuss most deep subjects with my dogs. They are far superior conversational partners to modern scum since they never make stupid comments. When we argue, it is generally a draw - my arguments versus their barks.

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, I withhold dog treats from them. I am sorry that you are not capable of understanding the analogy.

You withhold dog treats? That suggests they belong to the dogs.

When we argue, it is generally a draw - my arguments versus their barks.

Par for the course.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You withhold dog treats? That suggests they belong to the dogs.

Such a deep philosophical question. I mean when exactly is ownership transferred to my dogs? When it is in their mouth, in their stomach, never? Do I have the moral right to force my dogs to vomit up the dog treats because I bought them?

Or what if my dog decides to eat a cockroach it finds? Do I have the right to prevent this?

To make explicit my initial point, arguing "my body, my choice" with a dog or with moronic modern scum is fairly pointless. Both are too stupid to understand your argument and both are too stupid to make choices regarding their body in the first place.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

maybe next time don't try to compare dog treats to a deadly vaccine

[–]Noam_Chomsky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Such a deep philosophical question.

If you say so.

To make explicit my initial point, arguing "my body, my choice" with a dog or with moronic modern scum is fairly pointless.

Says the guy who argues with his dogs.

[–]Foidblaster9000 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you're not arguing with your pets, you're losing out