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[–]Orangutan 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

He bowed to the DNC, Clintons, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz though, so same difference, big whoop, and even worse.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rigged

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

bowed? lmao remember when he allegedly took a beating during the 2 week period they removed his secret service detail? He made a speech 2 days in a row, and on the second, he had bruises and bumps on his face without explanation. His demeanor was also different during this presentation.

When people started questioning it on social media, "he fell into a glass door" and they bandaged him up a few days-week or so later.

This isn't directed at you, but every president bows for Israel. You don't become a candidate without being vetted first; if we vet people on certain websites to avoid trolls, you don't think they'd do this politically, with a position as important as the President? Look at "MAGA" Trump, Making Israel Great Again.

And if you don't play along..

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Isn't it ironic how much property and money the self-proclaimed democratic socialist owns, the same one who wants to take from the out of control, wealthy elite and give back to the deserving working classes?

    [–]Theo_Fridall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

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    This is an interesting website! Ty for sharing fren!

    "Claims to have sustained a black eye and stitches from cutting his head on the edge of a glass shower door."

    Whoever runs the site is accurate about this, but the story itself is full of inaccuracies and is unbelievable. I remember it as it happened - he appeared like that live and there was no explanation for his injuries. No press, no anything about him bumping into glass. People were confused, and it created theories that he was roughed up - if you google it you can find literally hundreeeeds of everyday people questioning it on twitter and MSM as well.

    Then about a week later he appeared with bandages and that glass door story came to be. If you look at the press photos of him with the bandages, you'll notice the cut on his cheek has healed a lot and the swelling on the bump is almost fully down, it's just red at this point.

    edit: LOL, i almost choked at reading the George Bush jr one. shit was funny as fuck:

    "Official Explanation – Choked on a pretzel, fainted and fell off the couch and hit the floor"

    He would choke on a pretzel, successfully faint and fall onto a cushioned couch, then randomly fall off the couch while unconscious and hurt his face that bad.

    Never heard of "soul scalping" either.

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    He is for two state aolution was pro war and is lying.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Seems like a good plan to me. War untill you talk is not what I signed up for. You?

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's easy to not bow to anything when you aren't the guy in office. Once you get elected, you learn who is the REAL boss of the USA. And it's definitely not you.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It is up to us to make sure they do as we say. It is really that simple.

    [–]RuckFeddit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    And how would Bernie as pres. be any different to Trump? it's congress that's rotten. They'll all turn on him and waste 4 more years.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://prospect.org/day-one-agenda/using-presidential-power-executive-authority/ yep he can't do anything with out the Senate. And he will not have 30+ years of experience unless you can find somebody with more experience oh let's say our current chiefs three years. There fixed it for ya. Nothing will change if we don't allow for it. We want theses things. Surprises me you refuse to see it.

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    And beyond that all the handlers, advisers, and lobbyists are rotten. And they're all unelected, and stay in their positions for life. They just swap out elected puppets while they continue their agenda. They're the ones actually controlling the government, not these elected people who are little more than good PR and a nice face that can be swapped out once it's sullied and blamed for everything, for a fresh new face, giving the illusion the people have some measure of control over their government.

    In reality, basically if they're on TV regularly, they're a puppet to someone else, and not the one making the decisions. The true power is never put up front on display, it is hidden in the back so no one can attack it easily.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    This is why I think those of us that pay attention, regardless of political leanings, can agree that the current structure cannot be fixed electorally.

    It will take torches and pitchforks - and those don't tend to come out until the bread and circus dry up. Until that point people have too much to lose to act.

    [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I agree voting will not solve it. But I also think there are other options than torches and pitchforks. Mass protest that causes billionaires to lose lots of money is effective in getting them to come around to the will of the people. Or maybe that's what you meant

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That is one form of torches and pitchforks, sure. However, the establishment has become extremely effective at neutering such movements.

    Two come to mind that were quickly co-opted and rendered impotent.

    1) Tea Party Movement (Right Wing)

    2) Occupy Wall Street (Left Wing)

    Large scale movements in France have been ongoing for a long time now (Yellow Vests), and are being handled well with rubber bullets and media suppression.

    At the end of the day politics are a surrogate for violence. Or, to quote Kennedy, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

    If you yell at the government and corporate america, "Stop!", and they say, "Make me", then shoot you with rubber bullets and arrest you - the only options left on the table are to accept your status as a slave, or stop playing by the rules and rebel.

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    It's interesting to note too that the Tea party started as a pretty centrist thing with Ron Paul and then it got hijacked by the Koch Brothers and Sarah Palin and John McCain.

    Likewise, OWS was a centrist movement borne out of the economic hardships of the 2008 economic crisis, but it was warped in to a lefty hippy organization full of the homeless and ignorant.

    Both these warpings are deliberate, by the people currently in power, to maintain their power structure so they don't face real opposition. What we need is a true centrist thing that cannot be warped.

    However I have a feeling that it won't arise until there is a common enemy, be that the stock market crashes, or be it a hong-kong style anti-government protest after the US government does something very obviously overstepping their bounds.

    But there are also many vultures like Soros who are deliberately creating these chaotic conditions to profit from them. Remember the freemasonry slogan "Order from chaos" (Ordo ab chao)

    Revolutions are very exciting, but I'm coming to realize that the best revolutions are the slowest and gentlest ones, because they have the likelihood to last the longest. I think the Icelandic "Pots and pans" revolution that got them a new constitution, is the best example we have in modern day. This is a very civilized and focused way of doing this.

    There's also the possibility we could vote for a constitutional convention on the state level. If 35 out of 50 states individually vote for it, we would get a new constitution. So that's one other way to bypass the federal government to change it.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Let's not forgot though that every time a country throws off the shackles of international finance they are murdered or punished brutally by international finance.

    At this point the only countries left these powers don't control are Cuba; North Korea; Iran; Syria ; Venezuela

    It's naive to think they wouldn't intervene internationally to maintain their authority here. Certainly they were quick to take care of Libya, Iraq, Germany, Spain, Italy, Sudan, Afghanistan, etc.

    The average OWS protestor had more in common w/the dreaded "nazis" than they'd ever know if they never studied history.

    [–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    That is never ever going to happen though. If there's one bet I'll take it's that we will continue to live comfortably ignorant.

    [–]Jfram 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Bought and packaged.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

    Well I hope it's real, and not just posturing.

    Trump was going to "drain the swamp" too. We all saw how that worked out.

    [–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah, it was more like Populate the Swamp With Even More Swamp Creatures.

    [–]Tom_BombadilNational status = freedom 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    He has a history of going farther than almost any other candidate to fulfill commitments.

    I suspect that he weighed the pro's and con's of Clinton's assassination and went with the additional lifespan option. She's not in the race, so his survival prospects are much better this round.

    On the bright side the Democratic party is demonstrably rigged, and everyone with a grey cell knows it, so he did us that favor.

    Trump a is better option than Hillary. If Bernie was assassinated then Trump could have been easily framed/implicated politically. Russia gate is proof of that.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    so he did us that favor.

    If only he had, you know, mentioned it once, ever. Instead he acted like nothing was wrong.

    I expect he will get boxed out of the DNC and then again act like nothing is wrong.

    I truly believed in the man until he folded when the DNC stole the primary from him, and never mentioned it. How can he be a strong president when he can't even stand up to DNC corruption?

    I still think he's one of the best candidates. But just like Ron Paul, that's why he will be boxed out of the primaries at the end.

    [–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I truly believed in the man until he folded when the DNC stole the primary from him, and never mentioned it. How can he be a strong president when he can't even stand up to DNC corruption?

    I still think he's one of the best candidates. But just like Ron Paul, that's why he will be boxed out of the primaries at the end.

    This was my exact experience as well. As much as I love what Tulsi represents, I've lost faith that the system, or its players, can ever be authentic or functional. I refuse to capitulate to despair, though, bc that's part of their sinister plan!

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree, I will still vote, but I recognize that it's ultimately a basically meaningless form of self-expression in the current system, and other ways must be tried if there's any chance of fixing things.

    [–]Tom_BombadilNational status = freedom 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If only he had, you know, mentioned it once, ever. Instead he acted like nothing was wrong.

    Yeah. You make a great point. There's not much of a chance that things will be different.

    :-/

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Mandates matter. I don't fear any of them neither does Bernie. It's about what he knows to be right. We have in our lives never been handed a this kind of hope don't be afraid.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Every politician in history has run on that exact platform, just saying. I like Bernie's platform too, but politicians are fantastic actors. And also once in power, the president doesn't have nearly the control over things people think he does.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No not one have said the same thing and legislated for thirty years to back up our colective voices. We will put conditions on the money Just to think less of this man, with all that you have seen, well your fear is nothing but wadded panties.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Don't get me wrong, I like Bernie's platform. I'm just saying that basically no one is allowed to rise to his level unless they're deeply compromised. Maybe he is an exception. I don't know.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's fine but we do. He has never waffled on his idea. And told corporate America to fuck off. Takes only donations from us. you have no real fear but fear its self. He has always been clear and direct. Me? I'm just proud of his supporters and with out fear know he will get the job done with America's support he always said not me us. And spoke the truth to power as a life style for his entire life of public service. Like I say fear is your game! It has no place in a Bernie whitehouse.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    Trump isn't done.

    [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    I agree, but he hasn't drained anything at all, or even started to. It's been 3 years.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    In your estimation. I would venture guessing that things look VERY different once you step into the oval office.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    I'm sure it does. But still, I'm not going to hold my breath until his last day in office, acting as though something will come when his pattern of behavior makes it likely nothing will come. He will most likely be a lame-duck president who the media could never shut up about, and nothing more. He has at least avoided starting a war unlike Bush Jr. I give him kudos for that. That's how things are shaping up to be, and I'd be surprised to see any huge variation in that. I'm happy to see him stifle the military-industrial complex a bit, but it seems pretty clear by now he's not going to "drain the swamp". I could be wrong, but a pattern of operation has emerged, and I don't think that pattern will be hugely disrupted. That's by design.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    I think he'll go down in History as the President who was in office at the time the US (and global) financial systems collapsed.

    But maybe not, it that takes longer to happen than I believe, and if he loses his elections...

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Yeah I agree, I've been saying since 2015 they want to crash the economy (which is due to "naturally" crash by now anyway) and blame it on trump. This would guarantee the democrats another 8 years as president most certainly.

    What I'm surprised about is that it hasn't happened yet... If they really wanted to avoid Trump re-election, I would've thought they'd be doing that already... certainly they would do it in his first term and not wait until the second term, right?

    [–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    This makes sense since this is a man with many failed businesses who has used bankruptcy something like 5? 8? times to relieve himself of his financial obligations. Maybe they will do the crash at some crucial moment of transition to instigate some CoG thing? I dunno. I hope not.

    [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    That's an interesting take on top of it... In my mind I imagined them doing this to Trump, but your idea he may use the "bankruptcy" to profit is interesting, I hadn't considered that.

    [–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Actually I had meant it in the way that you meant--doing it to Trump--in the sense of the perfect patsy being one with such a sordid financial history to point to.

    But your interpretation is also interesting. I do think he's a patsy/puppet either way and will maybe even be paid to be the scapegoat?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Agreed! But they need to have all their contingencies together for when they do that. Otherwise Bitcoin.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I think they majority own bitcoin. They certainly own XMR. I think bitcoin is the contingency plan after currency collapse. I could be wrong though. It's hard to tell what is controlled and what isn't. That's perhaps the most frustrating thing about all this, is it's just so difficult to discern the truth of what people want vs what is being pushed, because of how corrupt all the media is.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm fairly sure I know what the contingency plan is.

    For 0.01 BTC I will say in a PM. You can make it back easily with that info.

    [–]curryvirgin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Looks like he's out, then.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Funny