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[–]Reed_Solomon 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I don't think drawings should be illegal, but at the same time it's pretty sickening and disgusting that this was allowed on their platform.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

All child porn increases offending whether it's real or created.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I dont think porn leads to rape. I think we have a huge problem because we don't distinguish kiddie porn from raping kids. This gives the (((medi))) enough leeway to minimize the crimes of child rapists by simply reporting that they are pedophiles and claiming their charges are for kiddie porn. And it gives people a false sense that child rape is being stopped by the FBI because once in a while they bust a child porn ring where it's just a bunch of pedos trading porn they found on line.

Naturally child porn should be illegal because it CAN be used to coerce children into sexual acts. But we should not elevate it to the same status as molestation or rape by claiming that it always leads to it. That causes harm and you absolutely dont need that claim in order to make it illegal.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Porn and child porn have very different effects.

Child porn definitely does increase offending.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bullshit. Child porn is illegal so you are already selecting for pedos who are willing to break the law. On top of that no one will admitt to watching kiddie porn the way they do regular porn which has been so normalized you would be considered weird if you said you didn't. This makes good faith comparisons impossible. Your claims are pure propaganda and fly in the face of logic. It's like saying shoes lead to murder. Its convoluted nonsense. People who rape adults also watch porn, that does not mean it was the porn that made them do it.

Porn is porn. The problem is that child porn can be used to convince kids that kids having sex is normal. Which is already being done by Hollywood and has even made it into grade school curriculum.

[–]akkordeonplayer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Partaking in viewing and distributing it is a sexual offense against a child in itself.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is not. This is irrational emotional bullshit at best. And strategic propaganda designed to create exploitable confusion at worst.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Pornography is a demon which must be exercized; those who are drawn towards evil imagery are drawn towards evil deeds!

[–]SaidOverRed 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Do you remember r/coomer? Reddit banned them for their anti-porn stance. Shame, I really liked those guys.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't use Reddit, so I don't know about all the different subs there. I heard about a few of the high-profile bans like r/the_donald, but not r/coomer.

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure, but at the same time, not all nudity is pornography. nude drawings of children can be wholesome and tastefully drawn as part of a larger story, lets say its a drawn story about motherhood and a child runs out of the bath making the house a mess. It's comedic, not pornographic, and can show nudity but in a clearly non-sexual nature. I don't think the people making our laws and the legal system who follows them are nuanced enough to differentiate between the two. Case in point family law being the shitshow it is.