On reddit if you post a link to this scientific paper about the Covid-19 virus having HIV insertions, proving it's likely a man-made virus, reddit will instantly shadow-delete your post.

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[–]zyxzevn 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (24 children)

Feel free to reply and add more information..

Who made it?

Assuming it is man made, there are 3 possibilities:

  1. Chinese made it, and it leaked by accident from their laboratory (in Wohan). For example by an employee who did not clean his suit. Or by a corrupt janitor, who found a healthy animal and sold it. I don't think they will disrupt their own economy.

  2. CIA specialized virus. The virus is designed to completely disrupt the Chinese and Iranian economy.

  3. A suicide cult, made the virus. And brought it to everywhere on Earth. We are only seeing the beginning.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/secretive-south-cult-linked-coronavirus-outbreak-south-korea-held-meetings-wuhan

  4. Other security breaches by research institutes
    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/fbqvtc/victims_aboard_ukraine_international_airlines/

What makes it deadly?

a. We don't know. We can not test whether people have the virus, and which virus is doing what. Or if it is that bad.
https://www.corbettreport.com/lies-damned-lies-and-coronavirus-infection-numbers-propagandawatch/

b. It spreads very easy via small droplets in air. Can stay on surfaces. Can go via air-conditioning. Very good at spreading among communities.

c. The infected do not show symptoms for a few weeks or more. Very hard to quarantine. People that think that they are healthy, are spreading the disease everywhere.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/why-its-too-late-contain-covid-19

d. Can happen late in the disease. It infiltrates the Nervous system. This disrupts the functioning of organs. It can make breathing very hard or even impossible. These people need artificial breathing.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/beijing-hospital-confirms-covid-19-attacks-central-nervous-system

e. Reported by some. Can happen after second infection on restored patient. Severe auto immunity. This causes the immune system to attack the organs. Visible by blood coming from longs.

f. Panic and disruption of food supplies. And enforced quarantine. Possibilities for Violence and hunger/neglect/thirst.

h. Economical collapse.

i. Untested vaccines, anyone?

Good news

The young people usually stay healthy.
And the old neocons, old warhawks and old bankers may finally meet their end.

[–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

Good post. I think 1 and 2 are the most likely possibilities.

Also I want to add there are now 3 or 4 strains of it that have evolved since it started. And some of those strains are more deadly than others. And some they have tests for, and some they don't.

In the US they have not been screening incoming flight passengers. There is very much a normalcy bias. I think a lot of people don't want to "encourage panic" but that shouldn't come at the expense of keeping people entirely in the dark, in case this is a serious threat, people should perhaps begin to prepare and have knowledge for that, so it's not a shock surprise if it ends up being a big deal. Which that itself could cause problems.

In the US they've also basically given up on even trying to test large numbers of people. Washington state apparently admitted it has entered the "community spread" phase there, more or less. It almost feels like the US is trying to spread it, they're doing everything wrong. I think people and organizations in the US are just under-equipped and over-complacent though, on the whole. There's also a huge shortage of test kits. It's kind of a mess. And the number of people trying to silence the discussion of whether this is a bioweapon or not, is sickening. We should at least have the discussion and let the facts bear out. I'm still on the fence about it, but the evidence needs to be looked at and discussed.

[–]zyxzevn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

The Last American Vagabond has some more on it:

New Evidence Shows Coronavirus Started In The US, Not China Corona started September 2019 in US. But viping was banned instead.
Possible targets Iran and China?

Section: Italy/Iran Coronavirus Death Rate Far Higher & Here Is Why

Another Reddit curse - bitchute link posts are automatically removed on reddit

Source: Did The Virus Originate in the US?

China’s Coronavirus: A Shocking Update. Did The Virus Originate in the US?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196
Link with several sources and videos.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Great links. The recoveries have already supassed new cases. So, we must conclude, that Corona Virus, has been researched extensively, scientists know what it does, 95-97% of people who get the virus recover from it, so either:

A.) It's a weaponized strain from China

B.) It's a weaponized strain from western intelligence.

C.) It's a PsyOp (Psychological Warfare); meaning it's a virus, but the exeggeration is the PsyOp

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

95-97% of people who get the virus recover from it, so either:

  1. Assuming it doesn't cause longer-term effects in the central nervous system that kills people, which they're finding more and more

  2. There are now two strains, so a person can get one and be fine and then get the second one and die.

So the real death rate might be like 10-20% instead of merely 4% (which is already very high)

[–]fuckCNN123 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Furthermore there are numerous observations of varied genetic mutations on both main strains of the virus, which is a bad sign for both personal immunity and the production of immunizations going forward.

My personal opinion is that the mortality rate is lower than 4% due to lackluster testing resulting in most recording cases being severe, but even 1% would be an intense rate when numerous epidemiologists are predicting 40-60% global infection rates by the end of the year and credible virologists are suggesting that, due to mutation, this could be consistent/seasonal.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My personal opinion is that the mortality rate is lower than 4% due to lackluster testing resulting in most recording cases being severe,

I am hoping the same. There is a serious serious shortage of tests worldwide, so only the most serious cases are even being tested at all, so that's definitely creating a bias in the results.

But on the flip side, some covid-19 deaths were being mis-attributed to things like emphysema, both out of ignorance and intentionally to fix the numbers. So that would make the percentage biased to appear smaller than it actually is.

Maybe those two things balance each other out.

I think the economic failures will be blamed on the virus, but this bubble has been baked in the cake since the end of the last recession. The virus will be a convenient scapegoat. But there will probably also be genuine supply shortages too. It will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. That's my take on it

[–]fuckCNN123 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good point. If a patient died and wasn't tested for the virus before death, their death would probably be credited to emphysema, pneumonia, organ failure, a misdiagnosis, or an existing illness that worked in combination. Lack of tests would affect both the case rate but also the perceived fatality rate. The fact that the WHO, who has been so dance-on-coals about this shit, is claiming it could be that high is a bad sign.

I tend to agree economically. All bubbles pop, they just wait for the right amount of pressure.

[–]anti_misinformation 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But there will probably also be genuine supply shortages too.

There are already supply shortages in some industries.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where are you getting those numbers from?

[–]anti_misinformation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

recoveries have already supassed new cases

China's numbers may not be accurate regarding this. I will feel more confident of this once I see the same trend elsewhere, has that trend appeared outside China yet?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay, yeah, they are UNDER-REPORTED, but when we take into account that 3 - 4 million might be in fected that means 97% of them will have no symptoms and will recover.

[–]joewest1313 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

C.

This is a dry run for global police state control.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The genomic data of COVID-19 shows that it likely did not originate in the US; but of course it could have been released by the US in China.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2020/03/20/where-did-the-coronavirus-covid-19-originate/

I don't think it originated in the US.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, you have the Neocons starting Color revolutiona in China, proposing we destroy China's economy, and then conveniently the Corona Virus comes out of the blue.

[–]anti_misinformation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

people should perhaps begin to prepare

People need to prepare now in earnest. Even the CDC has already told individual families to prepare last week. With an unknown degree of community spread in the US it's past time to avoid all non-critical contact.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I can't disagree with withholding info on the severity to prevent panic. If people realized how bad this could be for them personally, there's a very large risk of society collapsing.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But if the reality is actually bad, then the panic will come anyway, and if it's pushed to the last minute instead of allowing for preparations beforehand, then we're talking about unnecessary deaths. If we just keep pretending everything is fine when it's not, then that will collapse society.

Being informed and prepared is way more useful to society's longevity than making sure people don't get scared

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Panic delayed, saves lives. People are already beginning to stock up on extra supplies, and the longer that can continue relatively normally, the better, imo.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Panic delayed, saves lives.

Not if it just causes greater panic later!

I agree stocking up and things going normally is good. I just don't think a large enough percent of people are stocking up on supplies early enough, and that will create more intense shortages later, which will potentially cause deaths.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if it causes more panic and death later, although there would be optimal parameters for all factors in this calculation. IMO, an early mass panic that happened before a certain level of preparations began could cripple society to a degree that wouldn't happen 'later', and cause the greatest number of deaths.

For every month that mass panic is delayed, more preparations by supply chains and companies of all types can be made to increasingly mitigate the damage. How much they'll succeed is a question, but their survival in the coming 'economy' will be in the balance too.

It's going to be a historic market tomorrow.

[–]anti_misinformation 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

appropriate panic, delayed, kills.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That too.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When Tom Cotton said it was a bioweapon made by China, I found that suspicious, because, you know, it's neocon Cotton. Corona Virus isn't that dangerous, so maybe they know something we don't. Maybe it was weaponized. Whitney Webb wrote a good article about this in the American Vagabond.