Lol yeah, like I said I remembered it more vividly but the quality doesn't offer much... it wasn't about the gore or torture per se, just the utter brutality - I mean how often do you see someone innocent die via pole thru their fuckin mutilated head? I've seen all the classics haha, just certain things stick with certain people. E.g. A cartel video where they decapitate a rival's daughter... Her begging and crying, then them using blunt shit as always so they have to finally twist her poor fuckin head off...