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[–]Musky 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Their leaders were not bribed in any way relevant to the article or the war

You mean CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed. It defies common sense to imagine their leaders have not used the massive influx of wealth to their country to enrich themselves, especially such a historically corrupt region. They didn't change their spots over night.

And they fight because they are brave patriots.

The first wave did thanks to effective propaganda. They're being forcibly drafted now.

Their government is the same one of ancient Kyiv which the Varangians called Boat Garden, Kœnugarðr

The US installed the current government. It's pretty new.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed.

By russia you mean? Are you being deliberately deceitful?

The US installed the current government. It's pretty new.

I think this is deliberate because I have asked you for proof many times and it turned out your evidence was a duckduckgo search page.

I think you're doing this deliberately

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

By russia you mean? Are you being deliberately deceitful?

By the US. Why would Russia bribe Ukranians to fight against them?

I think this is deliberate because I have asked you for proof many times and it turned out your evidence was a duckduckgo search page.

You really should learn how to search. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By the US. Why would Russia bribe Ukranians to fight against them?

Exactly it doesn't make sense, which is why I would like you to provide the CNN link you reference

Your first link from Reuters is about the Nuland phone call. You can read the full transcript here. It doesn't show that US installed a government, just that one woman discussed who she'd like to see. The name she mentions didn't stay in power beyond a few months so this is not proof of a US coup

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Your second link just talks about giving moral support and handing out cookies. There's no allegation that the US did a coup.

Your third link is a cryptocurrency fake news blog and doesn't offer any evidence beyond the authors opinion

You really should learn how to search.

You should really learn how to evaluate the crap links you dredge up on your confirmation bias missions

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly it doesn't make sense, which is why I would like you to provide the CNN link you reference

That's a comprehension mistake on your part. I said you won't believe anything until a CNN article tells you it, not that there was one. Why would CNN produce actual news counter to their propaganda?

You should really learn how to evaluate the crap links you dredge up on your confirmation bias missions

You know why it's believable, because it's exactly the kind of shit the US does.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

exactly the kind of shit the US does

In other words: the linked articles aren't enough to demonstrate your assertion...there's another part to convincing me of a US coup: I have to additionally believe your worldview about it being the kind of shit US does.

You're acknowledging that the articles you linked don't actually prove a coup - but only when they're read by someone who already believes your worldview about this being something the US does.

So why did you link the articles as though they were proof. Why did you accuse me of being unable to do a search - when now we're realising that the links don't actually prove your assertion unless they're read by someone who already believes the US did it. That's called confirmation bias.

So you don't actually have any proof of a US coup. Now you admitted it, fucking stop saying it. You're minimising the patriotism of the thousands of Ukrainians who decided without American input to go out and protest. You're literally incorrect and spewing ruzpropaganda. You're knowingly doing confirmation bias and trying to gaslight me that I just am not doing searches correctly

You mean CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed

Not a mistake on my part: you asked, whether I meant that CNN hasn't come out with this article. So either link the article or acknowledge that the mistake was on your side not mine.