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[–]Dregan 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (31 children)

The pic is obviously fake but the article is pretty spot on.

[–]dicknipples 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (26 children)

Bullshit.

It's Russian misinformation propaganda for idiots who favor the genicode of Ukrainians and destruction of Ukraine. How can these supporters of the propaganda be so evil?

[–]Musky 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Ukrainians are our mercs. We orchestrated their government, bribed their leaders, and are spending the lives of their citizens to further our own geopolitical goals. We don't exactly hold the high moral ground, although I agree this article is trash, no offense intended to Chottohen.

[–]dicknipples 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

No - they've struggled for over a century to free themselves from corrupt, violent Russian control and more recently, the genocide of their own people.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

'Free' themselves from a historically corrupt government to being under a US puppet regime. How exactly are they any more free, and how has this stopped the genocide, because it sure seems like it's directly causing it. A quick Russian victory would have been better for the citizenry, this is better for US interests.

I support it, the world can have the Ukranian women while their men are forcibly drafted to die fighting our enemies. Just cost $80bn for Zelensky to sell out his people.

[–]dicknipples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not sure if your mental gymnastics here are due to hatred of people you never met, or laziness, or selfishness or whatever. It's not difficult to understand what Russia is doing in Ukraine and what the costs have been and will be. At the very least, you can avoid supporting that genocide.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm of Slavic ancestry. I probably have distant relatives dying over there on both sides. I don't hate either of the peoples involved. I am against Russian interests because they run counter to US interests, but that doesn't mean I have to fall for the propaganda.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

We orchestrated their government, bribed their leaders, and are spending the lives of their citizens to further our own geopolitical goals.

All completely false

Their government is the same one of ancient Kyiv which the Varangians called Boat Garden, Kœnugarðr

Their leaders were not bribed in any way relevant to the article or the war

And they fight because they are brave patriots. Nobody is forcing them. The tree of liberty is being watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Apparently you don't understand that

[–]Musky 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Their leaders were not bribed in any way relevant to the article or the war

You mean CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed. It defies common sense to imagine their leaders have not used the massive influx of wealth to their country to enrich themselves, especially such a historically corrupt region. They didn't change their spots over night.

And they fight because they are brave patriots.

The first wave did thanks to effective propaganda. They're being forcibly drafted now.

Their government is the same one of ancient Kyiv which the Varangians called Boat Garden, Kœnugarðr

The US installed the current government. It's pretty new.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed.

By russia you mean? Are you being deliberately deceitful?

The US installed the current government. It's pretty new.

I think this is deliberate because I have asked you for proof many times and it turned out your evidence was a duckduckgo search page.

I think you're doing this deliberately

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

By russia you mean? Are you being deliberately deceitful?

By the US. Why would Russia bribe Ukranians to fight against them?

I think this is deliberate because I have asked you for proof many times and it turned out your evidence was a duckduckgo search page.

You really should learn how to search. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207

https://www.cato.org/commentary/americas-ukraine-hypocrisy

https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

By the US. Why would Russia bribe Ukranians to fight against them?

Exactly it doesn't make sense, which is why I would like you to provide the CNN link you reference

Your first link from Reuters is about the Nuland phone call. You can read the full transcript here. It doesn't show that US installed a government, just that one woman discussed who she'd like to see. The name she mentions didn't stay in power beyond a few months so this is not proof of a US coup

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Your second link just talks about giving moral support and handing out cookies. There's no allegation that the US did a coup.

Your third link is a cryptocurrency fake news blog and doesn't offer any evidence beyond the authors opinion

You really should learn how to search.

You should really learn how to evaluate the crap links you dredge up on your confirmation bias missions

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly it doesn't make sense, which is why I would like you to provide the CNN link you reference

That's a comprehension mistake on your part. I said you won't believe anything until a CNN article tells you it, not that there was one. Why would CNN produce actual news counter to their propaganda?

You should really learn how to evaluate the crap links you dredge up on your confirmation bias missions

You know why it's believable, because it's exactly the kind of shit the US does.

[–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

exactly the kind of shit the US does

In other words: the linked articles aren't enough to demonstrate your assertion...there's another part to convincing me of a US coup: I have to additionally believe your worldview about it being the kind of shit US does.

You're acknowledging that the articles you linked don't actually prove a coup - but only when they're read by someone who already believes your worldview about this being something the US does.

So why did you link the articles as though they were proof. Why did you accuse me of being unable to do a search - when now we're realising that the links don't actually prove your assertion unless they're read by someone who already believes the US did it. That's called confirmation bias.

So you don't actually have any proof of a US coup. Now you admitted it, fucking stop saying it. You're minimising the patriotism of the thousands of Ukrainians who decided without American input to go out and protest. You're literally incorrect and spewing ruzpropaganda. You're knowingly doing confirmation bias and trying to gaslight me that I just am not doing searches correctly

You mean CNN hasn't come out with an article saying Ukranian leaders have been bribed

Not a mistake on my part: you asked, whether I meant that CNN hasn't come out with this article. So either link the article or acknowledge that the mistake was on your side not mine.

[–]chottohen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What you mean "we" Kimo Sabe? —— No offense taken. I expect it's a bad translation of an already bad article.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Just cause the US calls the shots doesn't mean Canada isn't complicit. https://pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2023/02/24/supporting-ukraine-long-it-takes

[–]chottohen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

More and more I think the US is not calling the shots. Instead, it's a group of people from many countries but mostly the UK. The core group is old money going back to the Dutch East India Company who sold opium to China. It's the same group that told the US to get out of Afghanistan because they had decided to replace heroin with fentanyl. "There is a world within the world." — That's from Libra by Don DeLillo, who also wrote White Noise about a train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio that caused an "airborne toxic event." Somebody on that committee has good taste in writers.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Interesting point. Are these people Jews?

[–]chottohen[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, not all and probably not even a majority but they tend to hire Jews to work on their many think tanks and institutions like Tavistock, Rand, Stanford Research Institute, etc. Those think tanks tend to concentrate on how to manipulate and control the vast majority of us and also how to keep us in the dark about who our real overlords are.

[–]Evola 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The answer is yes by the way.

[–]chottohen[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your username makes me shudder every time I see it. Are you a shill?

[–]dicknipples 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

makes me shudder

weak

[–]chottohen[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Weaker

[–]Dregan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Or u can believe CNN and the Times gov sponsored propaganda machine.

Keep sending more billions to the most corrupt country in Europe. That is after the coup of 14'

Reeee azov!

[–]dicknipples 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

None of that's relevant. Ukrainians are being slaughtered, only because of Putin's supporters's commitment to geniocide. It's not difficult to understand or to find information about it. Your support of that genocide is part of the problem, you brainwashed asshole.

[–]Dregan 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ukrainians are being slaughtered at the expense of the U.S proxy war. This wouldn't of happened if the states didn't pull a coup and install their puppet gov in there.

Wake up u dipshit.

[–]dicknipples 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

states didn't pull a coup and install their puppet gov

This is idiotic, lies pushed by Russian propaganda. Have some self respect. There is no logic or evidence for this. It also wouldn't matter much. Russia is committing genocide against prople who did nothing to warrant it, nothing at all. Fuck off.

[–]Dregan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're an uniformed fucken idiot that still doesn't understand what happened in Ukraine in 2014. Anyone with a brain knows that the states pulled a coup and installed their puppet Gov. This is why there is war right now in Ukraine, shitstain.

At this point only a retard and or a shill will argue this truth. Dumbass.

Which one are u dicknips?

[–]chottohen[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks. That site is dependable. I wonder how Biden's billions were divided up. Are you in that region?

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That site is dependable.

I'm wondering about that. Their radio show is good but their articles are often sketchy. Using a fake pic on a news site is a big no-no. They also spread FUD every 1 April, as if it's okay to do it on that date. Especially in this field you have to maintain your credibility but they don't seem to care about that at all, that's why they seem like controlled opposition to me.

[–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)