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[–]tiny-brown-mug 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I find it very weird that the West demands that everyone be able to vote and promotes "Democracy" all over the world, but when an ethnic group or nation holds a vote to decide something that they don't like, they spazz and label it "invalid". Ok. Are you sure, though? Are you sure? Because you're also telling me that Biden won the last election. It seems premature to be absolutely sure that these people don't want to be part of Russia. Many of them are, after all, ethnic Russians.

Even if you feel that these votes and the referendums are a total sham, what matters is that Russia sees it as valid. Attack or attempt to re-take these states, and get nuked. We better take Putin seriously. Because antagonizing him, demonizing him, sanctioning him, and refusing to work with him on anything hasn't gone well for anyone.

The complete lack and essential black-out of any ability to understand things from the Russian side has me very unsure of how to approach this war. I'm not saying Putin is a hero, but I'm not sure he's a bad guy, either. He sounds like a strong, patriotic man who cares about Russians. This war, at least from his point of view, was about saving ethnic Russians living in Ukraine from abuse. Those claims have not been very well examined by the Western media. There's no balance.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I believe that democracy is a sham. All that matters is not who votes, but who counts the votes. So it doesn’t matter to me if these referendum results are valid.

However, this is also why I’m not on the side of the West. The West is weak and degenerate. And it’s run by insane psychopaths. America and NATO have no right to criticise and condemn Russia when their countries do the same thing. Invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya… the list goes on. Also, why should I believe that the 2020 Elections in America are valid? If you accept them as valid, then you accept the results of the 2020 Belarusian elections and the recent Ukraine-Russia elections as valid. I cannot tell if the recent elections in Eastern Ukraine/Western Russia were valid, but I know that the elections in America are certainly not. They’ve always been rigged.

Here in Europe, most of our politicians are retarded psychos who’ve done evil things. They get handpicked by the World Economic Forum, a Swiss corporation, and these politicians do as the WEF command because these politicians are stupid, weak bugmen who have skeletons in their closets. So honestly, why should I be scared of Putin, or see him as a threat? He’s not any worse than who we have running European countries.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Very well said. I agree, the United States is horrible about invading everyone, messing with everyone's business, and manipulating regimes, yet we dare to complain about others. The US hates Putin because they can't control him.

Yes, US elections are rigged. Many of us can see that now. It's about money and power, not what's best for anyone.