Glenn Greenwald: Nothing Trump Did Compares to the 'Moral Evil' of Bush's and Obama's Wars

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You are not corroborating your information with accurate sources. The 'Arab states' you mention only comprise a small group who already agree with Israel. You're following the Fox propaganda and the usual whataboutism approaches of the extremists. Check your sources, particularly with regard to the facts from reliable sources. Fox is registered as entertainment, not as news.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I do not watch Fox, and am baffled why you think it's the source of this.

MSF themselves published the information of Obama's hospital attacking war atrocity. You can read it on their website, I have cited the link several times.

This illustrates the peril of getting your news from censored sources and drinking from the hivemind pool. You think everything is the way you're presented with, and if anyone dissents you immediately slap them with a label and disregard it. Actually this is the mark of a properly demoralized person who has been subject to propaganda. It's the same reaction the literature tells us to expect.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You are selecting the hospital bombing as your main evidence for many other problems that are not directly related. It's called 'whataboutism' and it's the first thing one notices from MAGAtards who have no reasonable corrobration of evidence for their claims.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This entire topic is literally about how Trump is not nearly as bad as Bush and Obama. It's not whataboutism, it is evidence that directly supports the main point.

Did you hear about Obama's war atrocity before I told you? Yeah, the press didn't really make an issue out of it. I wonder why. Imagine if Trump did the same thing?

MAGAtards

Why, you're nothing but a bigot. Ableism is no different from fatphobia, transphobia, cisnormativity and homophobia. You're feeding the conditions that create fascism. As an SJW, how can you use such language? It directly contradicts your own quasi-religious beliefs.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What on earth makes you think this is a civil discussion? We're arguing over facts. It's idiotic. Read more.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Would you like to engage in a fact based refutation of Obama's war crime of bombing a hospital? Should he be tried in The Hague? Why or why not?

It may be useful to read up on the principle of command responsibility, which was used to convict Yamashita. He said he wasn't aware his troops had committed atrocities like bombing hospitals, but this excuse was rejected as a commander is responsible for all of the troops under his command. He was hanged after being convicted of crimes against humanity.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do you think my answer is?

If you want to use this or another 'whataboutism' argument, none of these will compare with the massive shitshows of corruption under Trump and Bush Jr. There's just no comparison. It you want to discuss war crimes, consider also Bush Jr.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're literally using whataboutism. The topic is war crimes. Moral evil. Bush and Obama are both much, much worse than Trump. He tried to end the wars, not start new ones. Halder and Keitel were hanged for starting wars of aggression. Which wars did Trump start? Obama started at least seven.