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[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bless his heart but he did ask for it.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You have to draw a pretty long bow to attribute Doug's death to the vaccine.

The vaccine doesn't confer immortality. It only stops death from CoVID infection.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

So you are saying the so-called vaccine does not prevent death from other causes. It would be good to tackle the actual causes of death then, since of course a pharmaceutical will never provide immortality. How can a man receive eternal life? God is eternal and you can be also, if you repent, and live a life of love as exemplified by the Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us on the cross so we may be forgiven, and he rose again. If you neither repent nor believe Jesus is the Lord, you shall die in your sins, even if you took the CoVID shot.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Some people say Jesus, some people say Allah, some people say Yahweh, some people say divinity is within and Buddha is your guide, some people say Shiva, some people say John Frum is coming back.

If you religious people can't work out for once and for all who's right, then the only thing we do know is that most of you are wrong.

So let's proceed with caution. If there is a god he gave us a brain, and it makes no sense that he wants us not to use it.

There's some thing i can work out on my own. Hating people is bad. Especially if they've done no harm, like gays, trans or women. Looking after the vulnerable is good. So blocking universal heathcare is bad.

Where's the religion with these ethics?

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It is true that God gave us an intellect and he expects us to scrutinize what we are told, whether it be true of not. If you want to know who he really is, you could ask him. Not only did he give you a brain, but he also gave you the ability to pray, to speak to God directly. If you sincerely desired the truth, he would give it to you. Religions of the world are corrupt, because unfortunately most men do not scrutinize what they are given, nor do they pray with a sincere desire for truth. Most men are content with the lies they are told, as long as they can fill their bellies. When these find themselves in torments, they will have no one to blame but themselves, because they rejected the truth and preferred their sins. God loves all, but not all love him.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you want to know who he really is, you could ask him. Not only did he give you a brain, but he also gave you the ability to pray, to speak to God directly.

I've used my brain, and i can tell that different people get a different god when they pray, depending on their religion. So i suspect you're mistaken about "talking to him directly". The evidence is that praying only talks to something each individual makes up differently.

Religions of the world are corrupt, because unfortunately most men do not scrutinize what they are given, nor do they pray with a sincere desire for truth.

How lucky for you that it's Christ that's the one true God, and not any on the others then. If what you're saying is true then Muslims and Jews and Shintos and Hindus and Buddhists, would find the Christ whenever they pray sincerely.

Let me know when that first happens.

God loves all, but not all love him.

This is the god that will torture for eternity those that don't believe in him, even though he made the universe knowing that those people wouldn't?

If that's love who needs pure sadistic evil?

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So i suspect you're mistaken about "talking to him directly".

Do not take my word for it, then. Try it yourself. If you do not actually want to know the truth, then of course you will not pray to God and ask him to reveal himself to you. God is the Truth.

How lucky for you that it's Christ that's the one true God, and not any on the others...

Many people that have gone to Christian churches are on their way to hell, so it has nothing to do with luck, but Jesus Christ is available to anyone, anywhere, if they would only repent, turn away from their sins, and desire righteousness and justice, and then they would find him. I have heard testimonies of people born into Muslim families that have had experiences with Jesus that showed them he is the truth, and then they were persecuted by family and friends for rejecting the Muslim religion. True believers in Jesus are in every nation.

the good that will torture for eternity...

This is a common misunderstanding about God. Jesus said he did not come to the world to condemn it, but to save it. God will have all men to be saved, even if it takes an eternity of eternities to do so, but he will never impose his will on man. Man himself must choose God if he wants to be with God, where there is love, truth, and peace. Man is not condemned to hell by God for eternity, but man descends into the abyss voluntarily when he rejects God, because his works are evil. If people would read God's word, they would see that souls do not remain in hell with no escape ever possible. The book of Revelation states that the souls will come out of hell.

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

But no soul can be blessed without turning to the Savior, who died on the cross, so their sin may be forgiven.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do not take my word for it, then. Try it yourself.

Should I start praying to Allah?

but Jesus Christ is available to anyone, anywhere,

Christianity didn't arise in more than one place nor at more than one time.

No he's not. He's only available where people are brought up in that religion. In other places and times he's completely unavailable.

Same as every other religion.

If people would read God's word

The Torah? The Koran? Which of all the gods' words would people read?

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Oh the Bible. So you support slavery?

Ephesians 6:5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

Exodus 21:20-21 When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Titus 2:9-10 Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

1 Timothy 6:1-2 Let all who are under a yoke as slaves regard their own masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be reviled. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brothers; rather they must serve all the better since those who benefit by their good service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these things.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So, you didn't try praying to God, did you? It looks like you would prefer to argue with me. And do you yourself not support slavery? Do you not support the injection of every human being on the planet with a mysterious pharmaceutical, the so-called COVID vaccine?

Employees have been fired and lost their jobs because they refused to take poisonous injections. How will they buy food when there are no jobs available to them because they are required to show proof of "vaccination"? No jab, no job, no money, no food... Slavery is here today, but the chains are invisible. God does not want slavery, just like he does not want his children to be in debt or to be prisoners. But there are verses in the Bible about debt and imprisonment also. And the ultimate form of slavery is almost here, when men will sell their souls to the beast system. It's in the Bible, to warn people.

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

God does not want men to sell their soul to his adversary. He wants all men to be free. Jesus promises freedom.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, you didn't try praying to God, did you?

You didn't get back to me on which god i should pray to.

And do you yourself not support slavery?

No. Slavery is an objectively bad thing. That's one of the reasons we know that the Bible and the Torah are bad moral guides.

Do you not support the injection of every human being on the planet with a mysterious pharmaceutical, the so-called COVID vaccine?

Vaccination is also an objectively good thing. There are several CoVID vaccines. Do you use of the definite article is weird. None of them are mysterious.

Employees have been fired and lost their jobs because they refused to take poisonous injections.

Wrong.

How will they buy food when there are no jobs available to them because they are required to show proof of "vaccination"?

Certainly no worse than if they couldn't buy food because they died of an infection, signed there are no paying jobs for dead people.

God does not want slavery,

You didn't read the biblical quotes in the gp post?

God loves slavery.

when men will sell their souls to the beast system.

You're referring to revelations of st john? I don't recall it mentioning seelling souls, mate. You might have made that bit up yourself.

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

You think the vaccine is the mark? I'll let you know when i have trouble sleeping. Or when this smokey torment starts.