Study: 2+ jabs give you a GREATER chance of reinfection with Omicron flavored covid-19 (PDF source in comments)

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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I agree your have to adjust for the factors that you can. But the paper notes the limitations in what they could do.

And I note the the entire effect is arises from those adjustments. Perhaps we should look for other confirming our disagreeing evidence before making our final call.

this study shows the jabs don't help anything

That's certainly not what it shows.

The life saving effects of the vaccine are in its reduction in deaths and hospitalizations.

This study didn't even look at how serious the reinfections were. It just looked at reinfection incidence.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The jabs don't work as intended. They don't keep people from getting ill, getting badly ill, from going to hospital, nor from dying. And we keep seeing more stories like this https://expose-news.com/2022/08/09/mortality-rates-lowest-among-unvacinated/ . . . because the jabs don't help and look increasingly like they are a direct source of harm

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The jabs don't work as intended.

Sure they do.

And we keep seeing more stories like this https://expose-news.com/2022/08/09/mortality-rates-lowest-among-unvacinated/

The numbers you're comparing aren't comparable. The underlying health of the the vaccinated 60-69 year olds in Britain is much worst than that of the unvaccinated, because of the drives to vaccinate in nursing homes.

That report is for comparing how the disease is progressing with time, not for measuring the effectiveness of the vaccine. There are plenty of papers that measure the effectiveness of the vaccine. You should use those for that.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The jabbed are dying of all-cause mortality at shockingly higher rates, and they still get sick from coof. Because the jabs don't work.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nope.

Unvaccinated are dying at over 20 times the rate of the triple vaccinated per 100,000 people.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Try finding one from a country without rubbish numbers. Before they spiked the page, Ontario was reporting time to infection from first vaccination. The first three weeks were a giant swell of infections, and in USA they count as 'unvaccinated" so . . . USA's unvaccinated number is useless for this conversation

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Try finding one from a country without rubbish numbers.

Okay, you don't like the data that shows that unvaccinated are dying an order of magnitude more than. Where is your data that shows the contrary?

I presume you've got some, because you wouldn't make the claim those are "rubbish numbers" without any evidence. Then you'd just look really stupid and everyone reading this would know that your position is just made up.

I'll wait.

[–]iamonlyoneman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe while you're waiting you should look around saidit a little harder. You'd see stuff like this https://saidit.net/s/conspiracy/comments/9nip/study_finds_a_sharp_increase_in_mortality/