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[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

While America is still tolerable, the rest of the Anglosphere is intolerable yet people are not leaving. Most people are just sheep and most of the action-oriented conservatives would rather fight and die than leave. So I don't expect a huge wave of immigration.

But those few of us interested in the area did debate whether publicize the area after the last Old Testament reading. Right now this place is seriously under the radar, so it would have to publicized for anyone to even find it.

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    [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Rome was already in terminal decline by the time of Jesus, a multicultural mess. The Old Testament had already developed a system to allow a religion to survive in a multicultural empire. Christianity made this system compatible with Greek and Roman culture. I think Christianity saved the eastern half of the Roman Empire as the Byzantine Empire, and that without Christianity, all of Rome would have simply collapsed.

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      [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

      All empires disintegrate (with the possible exception of China). The cause is endlessly debated but I think multiculturalism plays a big role. Also the population gets spoiled and loses the founding religion and goes into genetic decline from both lack of selection pressure and mixing with inferior genes. Also see The Fate of Empires.

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        [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        The extremes are no good. No mixing means no adding new good genes. Too much mixing means that the gene pool gets overwhelmed. Limited mixing (limited immigration) means adding genes slowly and letting the good ones be selected for.

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          [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          this just doesn't go down to the genetic level - not if you're honest.

          Why not? Why is it that people only believe extremes - that race is everything or that race is nothing. Gene pools matter but aren't the only thing and shouldn't be kept pure. I mean suppose you a have a group of dogs of a fast breed, say greyhounds. You may want to cross breed them with fast dogs of other breeds and see if you can add some good genes. But simply randomly mixing your dogs with other breeds will destroy the gene pool and will produce slower dogs. The same principle applies to humans. Throughout history, most people were worthless. Occasionally some group improved genetically to the point that it could produce a decent culture. But if such a group allows random unrestricted mixing with other groups, its genetic quality will fall. The average human throughout history was genetically incapable of sustaining a good culture. So one has to aim higher. And in fact I have a specific proposal to do just that.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          if an empire is expanding, that means they conquer lower IQ people, people with worse genetics, if they had better genetics they wouldn't get conquered. But then the superior people mix with the poor genetics people. That's not inbreeding but it's similar.