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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (40 children)

Dude, everyone has the capacity to be evil and yes, America can be a hostile place for Muslims but it isn't that bad and certainly not what the media portrays. I never said Muslims are innocent and pure, they are just people and like every person on the planet, they have a tendency to be evil. However, the Iranian military has a higher ethical standard than the American military in the region and it is on a religious basis. If you truly think there is some Muslim agenda to undermine the West, you're delusional and part of the problem. 9/11 had more to do with Israel and the corruption within your own government than anything related to Islam. Most Muslims would love America if ya'll didn't have terrible foreign policy which supports the murder of innocent children.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

so how would you explain this muslim clerics actions or the roles ilhan omar, tlaib and huma abedin play in us politics? wuld you describe them as love for america?

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ilhan omar was certainly right about the "who" in 9/11 but as one of the few muslims in cogress she very well could be a controlled opposition. They all have to sign promises to pay homage to the Zionist cause and to never turn their back on Israel.

Many have left congress for this reason. So, I'd assume, like Cortez, they are fronting a neutral line but covertly backing Israel. It's quite cleer Cortez is, which makes me question almost everything she stands for.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (37 children)

so how would you explain this muslim clerics actions or the roles ilhan omar, tlaib and huma abedin play in us politics? wuld you describe them as love for america?

Anyone that gets that far in American politics is bought and paid for by the heavily Zionist deep state. They are just puppets furthering an agenda one way or another. Not one Muslim in mainstream politics or news represents me. The only Muslims you get to hear from are "Zionist Muslims" or puritanical goofballs whose minds have been deteriorated by either brainwashing or war.

You want me to defend Khomenis actions? Which clerics actions do you want me to defend? Like there are literally millions of other Muslims I don't agree with, there are lots of disagreements on something as simple as prayer. What you are asking for is basically equivalent to asking a Catholic to explain why Protestantism is great.

[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (36 children)

i think you are mistaken about the 'evil zionist jews'. case in point is ilhan omar, who is a qatari spy and qatar relays her information to iran.

tlaib, again is palestinian. those are typically not zionists afaik :-)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (34 children)

i think you are mistaken about the 'evil zionist jews'. case in point is ilhan omar, who is a qatari spy and qatar relays her information to iran.

LMAO yeah right. Iran, a country in economic and social turmoil, has the time and the resources to go out of its way to attack the biggest military in the world offensively for no other reason other than "they have freedom there". You can't be this dense man. Once again, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE along with most royal families in the area were instated by British and European royals to maintain military and political control over the region and are America's "biggest alies in the region" behind Israel. Iran, a country which hasn't attacked anyone in centuries and has a peaceful culture is constantly attacked. You honestly expect them to admire "Western freedom" after it destroyed their country so British Petroleum could steal the oil while simultaneously giving immense power to all these puritanical royal families? That expectation is more delusional than any ayatollah in Iran.

tlaib, again is palestinian.

You're a bit too simple minded if you can't see how Palestinians and their leadership can be manipulated and used by their Zionist rulers. Hamas was created by Israel.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, HAMAS was not only created by Israel but a researcher who went by the title Paulstal Service, before being doxxed by Hasbara, did great work on proving that some of the top military leaders for HAMAS were Israeli Zionist Jews.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (32 children)

i remember how iran attacked a few american bases in iraq with missiles after trump have one of their major generals killed. that was recently.

i also know about iranian military support to some of his proxies in the middle east that result in terrorist attacks.

and the primary target of iran is not america, it is israel as we all know. and the secondary target is not america either, it is saudi arabia.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (30 children)

i also know about iranian military support to some of his proxies in the middle east that result in terrorist attacks.

Yeah, all violent political conflict among Muslims is "terrorism" but when we go there to do illegal drone strikes and kill innocent civilians against international opinion, we're bringing "freedom" to brown savages who wouldn't have any conception of freedom without our intervention, right?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What you call "Islamic extremism" I call authoritarian, democratic Muslim populism. The royal families in the Middle East where given their power politically, economically and militarily by their European masters. However, in countries like Iran and Pakistan where authoritarian religious policies do pop up, people do want it to some extent even though they inevitably don't agree with the implementation and it is a democratic process. The issue going on in Muslim societies is similar to the one going on here in many ways once you strip away the religious framework, it is basically a battle of authoritarian collectivism, particularly in a democratic framework where mob justice can rule, infringing on freedom and ruining culture!

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

the problem, which i try to point out is that terrorism is being exported to other parts of the world and is manifested as not a 'conflict among muslims' but as jihad.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

a 'conflict among muslims' but as jihad.

Not one Muslim I have talked to in a lifetime of being around Muslims across the Middle East and Asia has considered "jihad" (translated to religious struggle) as a military operation against "infidels". That is such a bastardization of the theology. Sure, you could interpret an aspect of jihad to mean militant self defense in the same spirit as the second amendment but any theological focus of this "religious struggle" centers around the self. "Jihad" is just a religious struggle against your own ego (referred to as "jihad al nafs" or religious struggle against the soul/self) and its tendency to lure you into sin. Even the most puritan of so called jihadis has to create a narrative of self-defense and battle against injustice for there to be any credibility to the claims theologically. The puritans only have credibility if there are injustices for them to exploit. You have clearly only heard about "jihad" from the media and not from Muslims directly. You really that concerned about Muslims battling their own egos in the west?

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

i am, if the only way they can beat their own egos is by blowing themselves up or by driving cars, trucks and buses into pedestrian westerners.

can you beat your ego by stabbing people of other races and religions? i guess it is all a matter of conditioning and beliefs. but i have a suspicion that they don't subscribe to the same definition of jihad as yourself!

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You mean all of those PsyOp western terror attacks? How many have there been now? 50?

The goal has always been to instill fear and they will continue to orchestrate and/or fabricate western terror attacks in order to keep populations fearful and apathetic to war and intervention.

I could show you solid proof that many of the terror attacks in the west in the 21st century are highly coordinated PsyOps. Sometimes they are real events, other times, like in Belgium they are laughably staged with a host of characters and intelligence agents.

It is too bad I'm unable to link anything, the powers that not be have censored and memory-holed all of the material that was freely avaliable for around 9 years. If anything those 9 years of uncensored exposes by independent researchers will be a time of the past. The window has closed for now, hopefully a new uncensored research platform can emerge.

Those 9 years have illustrated to me just how far "intelligence" agents will go to manage public perception. They always create a boogyman.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ahh, so Palestinians (Phillistines) are evil and Zionist Jews cannot be evil?