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Femaleisnthateful 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

Weird flex while corporations have been shifting away from EDI initiatives. Why target a demographic that is notoriously low functioning and reliant on GoFundMe donations and government grants?

xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

They are probably victims of timing. They fully jumped on the bandwagon just as other companies were realizing it was time to jump off.

bife_de_lomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Jaguar lost an employment tribunal on the topic of non-binary identities so it's somewhat understandable that they've gone a bit deeper into the DIE brainwashing than others.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_v_Jaguar_Land_Rover_Ltd

shatnermouth 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

LOL and the pissant troon who started the case is now just identifying as a woman.

OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

"we have the right to change gender hourly without telling you and get YOU punished for it!" is up there with "you don't need to be trans to be trans!" "basic human decency costs nothing, also be sure and meet with friends at a cafe to practice using the correct pronouns before meeting your special-needs friend," and "don't ask me my gender!"

bife_de_lomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I didn't know that, that's so funny.

xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Wow. Queer Marxists totally destroyed the company. I feel bad for everyone who isn't a grifting, woke exec.

Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Maybe thought kamala would win, then more free govt money would go to companies with DEI

Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun 1 month ago

Here Layton Williams wonders why "queer" people are all creative. Spoiler: they're not.

Found this funny. It's like they think anyone else can't put on eye liner and wear a gimp suit. That doesn't make you more creative, lol.

xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I went to school with and worked with the creative class for decades. We're mostly straight, just like the rest of the planet.

Nonbinaryandroid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I think generally what happens is that creative types are more tolerant of certain kinds of weirdness than the rest of the planet. Especially in college. The problems come about when you get these fully disconnected from reality coupled with the unfortunate tendency of many creative types to be unable to handle criticism constructively.

I've made the argument a few times in groups that I've been in that while I personally don't really give a rats ass if you want to come into work dressed like a drag queen, and in fact honestly I appreciate the entertainment, it gives off an air of unprofessionalism that will be viewed negatively in most public facing rolls. Yes the verbal criticism you are getting is mostly coming from people who are "triggered" and bigoted to some degree but the damning problem isn't them it's the people that see it and are smart enough not to say anything just writing us off entirely, opportunities are lost. I might get shit on for mentioning this, but I'm not making the rules by which society operates I just understand that if you want to break them you have to accept the consequences.

Basically I think a loud minority just ends up controlling the social dynamic. In any situation it seems the most intolerant and loudest voices set the standards. Be that progressive or regressive. It's why people cringe at thought of Mohammed cartoons. Enough intolerant people out there willing to behead you over it. Why you don't say "hmm maybe having gay characters in this kid show isn't a good idea" enough crazies to brand you as a biggot and destroy your career convinces most to stay silent.

It's the "wrong side of history" argument. Yeah you say I'm on the wrong side of history but history isn't here yet. History is written by the victors. Trump one again does that mean he is on the right side of history.

It just seems obvious to me that if you are trying to market something, making a marketing campaign that targets some wildly small demographic at the risk of alienating your core market with some culture war bullshit is a losing proposition. It was the same with the Disney gay stuff. It doesn't matter if it's mostly tame and not controversial to you and your circle. You publish it, you lose loads of your potential market. And damage the brand. It's nothing new either seems nobody remembers the decades long boycott of Disney from the Baptists.

xoenix[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

The kind of extreme soft & sensitive language required whenever talking around gender specials frequently reminds me of class critiques which, even by the time I was in college, were pretty soft. There were stories of older instructors throwing bad work out windows and making students cry, but that pretty much ended by our day. The good/poor quality argument in the arts was lost decades ago in a similar manner to how the sex binary was blurred.

Nonbinaryandroid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Extreme soft and sensitive is the point too.

It's one thing to go off on a profanity laces tyrade. It's another to take the work and say "well it's not very good, the plot moves too fast, the characters aren't interesting, it's too derivative of XYZ" all opinions of course but if you're going to cry about that then how the hell you expect to improve? People are just going to stop talking to you. It just shifts the goal posts ever farther towards normal criticism having the same impact on these people as actual verbal abuse.

With the gender stuff as well. Basic questions, what is a woman? How can you be non-binary when there's no objective metric to determine that? Basic questions kind of make the whole thing fall apart because there aren't good answers but instead of reevaluating their beliefs they just take it as a personal attack.

shatnermouth 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I mean I think by queer creators they mean they want to market their cars to the noncontributing petit bourgeoise who are bored and buy shit with spare income from a trust fund or something

Haylstorm 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Well they're probably going to sell the same amount of cars as they've been making in that case. None.