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Teacher Enoch Burke has spent almost 500 days in prison after refusing to use they/them pronouns for a child(x.com)

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HibikiBlack 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Holy shit.

RedditButt 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

What country is this?

bife_de_lomo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Ireland

Nonbinaryandroid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Going to write a letter to president Trump asking him to send troops to liberate Ireland.

RedditButt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Joe Biden is the current president, but it would be funny due to this startrek tng clip 30+ years old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSGp4WIBsQ

makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Arelund!

Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Why do they need to frame it as "Christian beliefs" ? It's so "God damn" annoying that we can't simply say common sense. Christian beliefs implies this is in par with religious "truth" like you can't sit on the same chair as your wife after she had a period.

Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Common sense comes ultimately from religion

Nonbinaryandroid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Legal maneuvering and probably a consequence that fear of hellfire is probably one of the more common reasons why someone would risk their life and career over pronouns vs simply keeping their head down.

Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

I assume Ireland doesn't have any first amendment freedom of religion legality to maneuver through.

Nonbinaryandroid 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

Not like the US but the basic concepts will still exist legally. Quick search shows it's article 44 of the Irish constitution.

I'd assume it goes to court to determine whether or not the religious argument is sound. Which I think will prove difficult because the concept of choosing your own pronouns came about long after religious dogma was established and "Thou shalt not use they them pronouns" isn't so clearly written anywhere.

I'm more of a fan of the compelled speech argument. You can call yourself whatever you want and ask others to call you that too but other people aren't obligated to respond. Anyone who disagrees with this I then ask them to call me "your majesty" few oblige.

Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun 1 month ago

The lawyer should explain how pro nouns ultimately has to do with gay shit and the Bible is against that .