Washington judge orders female-only spa with compulsory nudity to admit transgender women with penises, after owner said facility was for 'biological women only'

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[–]Haylstorm 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Honestly I do think single sex spaces deserve to exist. For both men and women. Men are entitled to exactly the same space as women. Obviously so long as they're equal if there's a male only hour, good for them. A lot of men are going to feel more comfortable with that. Disgusting behaviour to shame people over it.

I know a fair few people of both sexes who for various reasons will only do certain things around their own sex and they absolutely should have that chance to do that. Same applies for a ton of things. I know men who have private groups for specific topics (often suicide) that I would absolutely help them bar women from for the good of their space. In that case if only because men don't open up the same way around women and so it could ruin the point of the space. The women can make/have their own space for it but shouldn't force their way into the mens one or shame them for having it.

I do get really sad when I hear about experiences like yours. Everyone deserves that space with their own sex. Dynamics can be different and it can be really beneficial for people to have access to that for either sex and anyone wanting to take that away is abhorrent.

[–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Even then, the problem is the "grass is greener on the other side" factor. No matter how much you make it equal between the two, one side will truly believe the other side is getting something better, and they'll complain until you give them the same. [And when they find out it's the exact same, they'll complain you're hiding the REAL good stuff the other side is getting from them.]

[–]Haylstorm 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It just saddens me. They can be brilliant services and options for people and it makes me so uncomfortable that people are happy taking that away from someone. I can see wanting the same and that's fair. Like it's fine to go "men get a swimming hour? Can we get one too?" but it's not fair to want to either take away the men's hour or demand longer.

I just don't understand why people think it's more than it is sometimes if that makes sense? If you think it's a good idea for one sex it's good for the other and the entitlement of people that think others are getting more from it annoy me. Reminds me a bit of crazy customers who don't understand you don't have something and just yell at you to "get some from the back". Same self centred fuck you attitude.

[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, you also forget how many people doing this just truly HATE their "other". They don't really care if it's more than it is or not, what matters is the bullying child factor of "this made you happy? Well, I TOOK IT from you. Now, you don't get to be happy. I TOOK YOUR HAPPINESS FROM YOU. And I can do it over and over again, whenever I want to, and YOU CAN'T STOP ME."

Even if they know the two are the same, they know "if I make sure they don't get it, then I get this and they don't."