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[–]IkeConn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Minnesota is fucking stupid if they pay for this shit.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

On the contrary, Minnesota should be lauded for this decision and people should be demanding every other state do the exact same thing they are.

I mean, would you rather Minnesota act like other states and say "aww, this vicious serial rapist self-IDed as non-binary the second he was found guilty and claimed he will identify as a woman for the duration of his prison sentence and will identify as a man the day he gets out of jail, and also that we need to give him time alone with every woman in the prison or else it'd cause him dysphoria?...gotta throw him in women's prison..." like all the other states putting trans criminals in women's prison do?

If prisoners are going to claim transgenderism and be placed in women's prisons, I'd much rather the state say "oh, you're trans? Fine. We intend to help you transition while you're in prison, including bottom surgery. Put your money where your mouth is- do you want to be in women's prison so badly you'll cut your dick off to get it?"

[–]divingrightintowork 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think they should generally leave it at oriectomies - some women just happen to have very large clitorises otherwise.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nah, I would say you go all in to it. Just castrating the criminal trying to do this is the worst of both worlds: You don't give the trans criminal a full bottom surgery so if they really are transgender, they still have dysphoria for having a penis, and if they're a asshole trying to game the system, being castrated is a stone groove for them since they still have the shaft and can still fuck their way through the women's prison, only now they won't risk having a kid.

You want to declare transgenderism to get in a women's prison, you should get full bottom surgery. If they really are trans, it's the kindest thing you can do for them to help them out. If they're not, you're cutting their dick off for their claim.

[–]divingrightintowork 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dick inversion is just expensive. Oris are not. Dicks arent' going to work great without testosterone presuming they're not on any other treatments to return / restore function. It's not perfect but generally tends to greatly reduce libido / function. You can also put them on E/P, which will impact things.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But, the difference is in how you can spin it. With a full vaginoplasty with dick inversion/oris, you can spin it as "we're helping these trans people with healthcare they couldn't get otherwise and helping them transition to live their best life", which looks positive, looks like you're showing respect to the people, and makes it so the only people who could disagree are...well, people who hoped they could game the system for an anime harem locked in with them, so you look like the ones who care about trans rights.

An ori, on the other hand, takes this affable nature away from it and is positioned as "you're castrating trans prisoners", which is a far, far more barbaric look to the layman.