Introducing the TransTrans Movement -- the successor to "SuperStraight" from Ovarit

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[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes the assigned female at birth trans-women are super valid.

[–]LtGreenCo 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

As a Trans Trans Man myself I am 100% behind this movement. The transtransphobic doctors I've been to refuse to give me a mammogram and remove my nipples; they give me bullshit excuses like "but sir you need breasts to even have a mammogram". It's so oppressive and all I want to do is be my true fake self and they don't understand that. We need this movement.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Fucking trootroon!

Edit: I just committed the first transtransphobic hate crime!

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

How are you going to be so evil to those poor transtrans babies?

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There was a definition for this called circumgender. Basically it meant you wish you were born the opposite sex so that you could have transitioned to the same sex you are now but could be trans.

I'm 99.9% sure this was defined on urban dictionary at some point but when I go check now it says that word doesn't exist. Also if I Google "urban dictionary circumgender", I get redirected to the "cisgender" definition which seems really suspicious like AlQueerida got to them already. It seems like that time someone put a change . org petition up for LGB drop the T and Google decided to disappear that from the internet where you would not get a single result. Even if you googled the direct url to the petition it wouldn't give you a link in the results but instead put tons of pink news articles about how transphobic old gay civil rights leaders were.

Right now the only Google link that appears to reference what circumgender is comes from an "asexual" website where they're talking about "demisexuals" and they are discussing the dilemma that "demisexuals are under the trans umbrella so a female could be considered a type of transwomen." And that is apparently super problematic like those pesky circumgender jokes.

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exculansic was trolling TRAs by calling herself a trans woman a while ago. Which is even more legit, because she transitioned and then detransitioned. Still drove the TRAs mad though.

If things ever got so bad that I really needed the victim points, to get a job or whatever, I would just call myself a trans man. I mean what are they going to do, inspect my genitals?

We need a modern-day Bosom Buddies show based on this concept.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Just say you're non-binary or whatever. It's practically a meaningless term.

I really pissed off a non-binary once by making a very good faith argument that not only was I non-binary as well, but literally everyone in the world is "non-binary" if we define it as "not adhering strictly to socially defined gender rolls" as the whole thing becomes so utterly vague as to what and whose roles you are following and why.

Like if I'm a man who likes cooking doesn't that mean I'm actually non-binary since cooking is women's work? What if I'm a man who practiced good hygiene and keeps my house clean? That's also stuff only women are supposed to do right? Well guess that makes me non-binary then.

It's just such a redactively primative view of gender rolls imho. I don't need to make whatever various personality quirks I have that aren't stereotypical of my sex into an identity of it's own. It's literally a call to attention but without doing anything worthy of attention.

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Same logic allows a male to call himself a trans man. He wasn't GI Joe enough to be considered a man, but identifies as a man. This insulates you from non-binaryphobic trans people.

[–]Kalkazar13[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I posted this on Ovarit the other day, and thought you guys might be interested in joining as well. We're gonna use the TRAs own tactics against them. Git in here, boyos.

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Looks like a gender critical feminist site? Is there a takeover attempt happening?

[–]Kalkazar13[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well Ovarit is kind of like the Gender Critical headquarters, but I wouldn't really call this a "takeover." More like an "alliance."

We share a common enemy. Our subreddits were banned for the exact same reasons. And I think we'd do well to help them out.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Don't mind most of the feminists I've met irl but you've got to do a better job of weeding out the crazies. A lot of the current problems with trans identification and the recent explosion in FTM identification I think is a direct consequence of certain radical feminist positions that come less from the "I want equal voting and property rights" line of legit feminism and more from the pathologically obsessed types that always see oppression in their tea leaves. It is typical of activists that they hate themselves and the world and are compensating for their own lack of self acceptance, and it wasn't untrue of radical feminism either, as many seem to really hate the fact that they are women and hate men as well, so they got around in the very socially antagonist method of demanding acceptance into various male only spaces through legislation, even going so far as to try to use legislation to pretend that the physical and social differences between men and women could be ignored, and naturally once that is done you can't even say what a woman is.

Radical feminism essentially went around and essentialized "women" as some sort of costume that one wears. This essentially killed the entire movement. As you've got men pretending to be stupid bimbos to get their rocks off, we also can't really listen to women's complaints about working conditions or the like either, like you want to complain about patriarchy? Yet you have chosen to be a woman? Why? Why not choose to be a man instead instead of choosing to be a woman?

It is a totally ludicrous notion, but it's the consequence of separating sex from this new fictional concept of gender. Since it invariably comes around back to very stereotypical views of what gender is. Progressive feminism ultimately comes around to answering the what is a woman question with "an inferior human" as once we admit that it's a choice one must question why someone would ever choose to be a woman. And the only answer we can imagine is "they must be an idiot to do that".

[–]Kalkazar13[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You raise some valid points. However, I am a male, and so who gets "in" to the movement isn't really up to me.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well that's your fault isn't it. Start identifying as a woman girlfriend and make those hiring decisions.

[–]Kalkazar13[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not my style. I joined the GC feminists precisely because I hated all of this trans crap. I hated how sexist it was, I hated how authoritarian it was, I hated how dishonest it was, I hated how it reinforced gender sterotypes, I hated how it mistreated women, I hated how it betrayed the gay rights movement by shaming people for their sexual orientations, and I hated how it preyed upon children.

Not a fan of identity politics or SJW-ism either, obviously. I know how misandristic a lot of feminists these days can be. But I'm still against sexism first and foremost, and the GC feminists see the TRAs for what they are. And for that, I am on their side. They're the only feminists worth supporting anymore, these days. Seems like everyone else has been brainwashed.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

[–]xoenix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh I see. Is anyone targeting this sub?

[–]Kalkazar13[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh shit. The term "TransTrans" already exists? And it already means something completely different? And it's even got its own subreddit?

Ah well. We might as well steal it. Gotta start the invasion somewhere lmao