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[–]The_Best_Yak_Ever 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

I’m not an optimistic chap by nature, but I do truly believe that the general public is getting sick to death of being bullied by weirdos, losers, and depraved activists in public spaces. They are tired of being told to ignore biological reality to suit the aforementioned’s feelings. They are sick of being told they need to put extra mental energy into obeying someone else’s pronoun woo under threat of being attacked and branded as a bigot. They are sick of being told they need to identify themselves as cis, and only refer to trans identified men or women as “women or men.” They are sick of watching men barge into women’s spaces. They are sick of men barging into women’s sports. They are sick of the emotional abuse of being told they are responsible for other people’s self harm because they don’t comply with the gender activist ever expanding demands. They are sick of the vile threats of violence and rape leveled at actual women should they not cater to the needs of men.

In short, people are sick of this nonsense.

I am someone who supported gay rights and still do. I believe a man or woman does not choose their sexual orientation. I respect that they were born that way, and that they are regular ass people just like me. Realizing that gay men and women are just normal people trying to get by in life, it becomes easy to have their backs to me. When it comes to transsexuals, I also believe that they suffer from dysphoria and just want to be able to transition and pass and get on with their lives. Again, easy for me to support and have their backs.

But when it comes to transgenderism. When it comes to “queerness…” they go out of their way to prove to all of us that they are NOT regular people. Their identity and worldview DEPENDS on them not being normal. They dress, act, and treat others in a way that is gross, selfish, disrespectful, and sanctimonious. They demand respect for depravity. They offer zero respect in return. They demand I be an ally. But they feel entitled to have that relationship be completely one sided. They can treat me like shit, but I am responsible for reading their mind and keep up with their “fluidity.” They feel entitled to make me responsible for their mental health.

Instead of treating us with respect and demonstrating that they too are just normal people trying to get by in life, they act as if they’re the only people who matter. They act as if they’re entitled to make the rules. They act as if they are the arbiters of social justice. In this, they are not at all like the LGBT community that I support. Due to their own often grotesque and sadistic behavior, they make themselves impossible to support in polite society.

[–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You know if you swap out trans for feminist your comment is just as valid.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amen, dude. Great screen name BTW.

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    [–]pacmanla 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    I respectfully disagree.

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      [–]cephyrious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      Also, women are gorgeous and men are gross. As a heterosexual male I am very appreciative that women like men, but I don't understand it :>

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        [–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        [–]cephyrious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I can agree that the sexuality of men and women probably form a venn diagram with some overlap, but let's not claim both sexes occupy the entire scale.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Then where am I?

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I think there's more to it than what someone looks like.

        [–]cephyrious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Obviously. Very thankful for that ^

        [–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Wait, hold up, someone at the UN is calling out the troon and TRA bullshit? Huh, either they're just in and don't have a career worth protecting yet, or they're almost out and have no fucks to give.

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

        Orrr…they took a blow to the head and are concussed.

        [–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

        Awesome, definitely a step in the right direction, but can men and boys talk about this nonsense without intimidation or fear too?

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        but can men and boys talk about this nonsense without intimidation or fear too?

        That’s just crazy talk!

        [–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

        Ah yes, because so many men received death threats and rape threats from TRAs.

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        They just had their lives ruined through losing their jobs and families, not so much threats as actualities, just ask Graham Linehan who lost his friends, family, jobs and house.

        [–]wylanderuk 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Don't forget the Canadian doc that that his licence to practice revoked and then there is Jordan Peterson...

        You know actual negative consequences rather than mean words...

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        James Esses too, lost his entire career when he was kicked off his postgrad psychotherapy course and barred from working as a therapist because he questioned the treatment of children.

        Harry Miller arrested for retweeting a limerick, forced to go to the High Court to address the way he was treated.

        [–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        You're well aware that if we make an oppression olympics on this, males are going to lose. For every man who lost his job because of wokeism, 50 women did. TRAs have a very long history of targeting women, but getting whimpy when it's against other men.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        Why are problems only important when women are the victims?

        [–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Much more importantly: why can't women discuss the problems they face without having men barging in screaming YES BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEHHHH???

        Y'all are pathetic. Just like how a good 97% of sexual assault worldwide is committed by males, but whenever sexual assault is discussed, you have incels screaming "women can commit sexual assault toooooooo reeeeeeeehhhh".

        Y'all want so bad the attention of being oppressed? Then I wish you dream came true and you really faced oppression and discrimination so much you could be all glad you're a whooping 97%.

        I swear, this is the TRAs movement in a nutshell. I'm surprised people like yourself didn't start roleplaying being women so they could pretend being oppressed without really being the case.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Those stats are fake. When women commit sexual assault, if it even gets reported at all, the woman almost always gets off the hook, and often the male victim gets blamed. In fact, in many places it's COMPLETELY LEGAL for women to assault men; only men can be charged for it.

        Why does one sex have to dominate and oppress the other? You don't want equality, you want to be the oppressor! Why do we have to be so prejudiced as to judge people by their sex rather than their character? Are you any different from incels who hate women just for being women?

        [–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        You and I both know those stats are definitely not fake. You and I both know how reality works. But you wish to pretende reality doesn't exist. So why are you even here? If you hate women and reality so much, you should go full TRA.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        [–]xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I'm not sure why this is happening.

        * Ohh, shit! Twitter did this! That thread is going to be full of tears and genocide.

        [–]wylanderuk 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

        Hell this is just a case of "stop doing to feminists what feminists do to others"...

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

        Yeah, I believe the Triggernometry guys put that to Kathleen Stock (at 53:40) and she admits that feminists in the 90s onwards laid the groundwork for the trans nonsense by trying to argue against biological determinism by claiming that everything was socially constructed - including womanhood - they essentially opened Pandora’s Box.

        They essentially set the stage for men competing in women’s sports, men entering women’s spaces and lesbians being expected to sleep with men. I think the CIA call this sort of thing, “Blowback”.

        [–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

        Which is why I find myself outside of some very narrow concerns find it hard to give much of a flying fuck.

        Oh aye I would also like to add that they not only laid the groundwork, but made the tactics not only workable but accepted. They made the bed, they can get fucked in it.

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        but made the tactics not only workable but accepted.

        Some of that is mentioned in the Triggernometry episode I linked. Konstantin Kissin tries to argue that the feminists’ “strategic lies” opened the door to all the current bullshit.

        But I remember the protests outside talks by people like Warren Farrell being disrupted by feminists (pulling fire alarms, banging on windows and invading the auditoria), now feminists are receiving the same treatment from the TRAs - it is wrong now, and it was wrong then.

        [–]wylanderuk 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Scorpion and the frog parable buddy and feminists are the scorpions and those they are pleading for support from are the frogs.

        I don't condone wankers acting like wankers, but then again I am not going to get between two groups of wankers being wankers...

        [–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

        But I remember the protests outside talks by people like Warren Farrell being disrupted by feminists (pulling fire alarms, banging on windows and invading the auditoria), now feminists are receiving the same treatment from the TRAs - it is wrong now, and it was wrong then.

        Likewise for this stuff, if you still hate feminists enough to be happy the snarts are using their weapons against you, just remember: They went after forcing lesbians to suck ladydick and making gay men fuck boypussy. If you're okay with that, it's all fun and games for straight guys until that large gay guy claims he's nonbinary, identifies as a woman for that moment,and thus you're expected to bend over and take it up the ass for him, before identifying as a man again after he shoots his load.

        [–]wylanderuk 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy, no more, no less...

        [–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Enjoy sucking girldick and taking girldick up the ass, then. What can I say? I'm sure it'll be so great when it happens that you have the gotcha for the feminists being sooooooooo MEAN to you.

        [–]pacmanla 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        I agree, & thought straight men laughing at feminists for "opening the door" for trans, was stupid & shortsighted. If they're trying to force lesbians to be comfortable with "girldick", you really believe they won't attempt to do the same straight men? Though straight men & even gay men don't care about calling us "bigots", etc. It won't work, which brings up the going "stealth" route.

        [–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        Why should men do anything to help feminists deal with the rod they created for their own back?

        Fuck I have already said I have narrow concerns regarding TRA crap, but none of you delusional fucks have even asked what those are...

        I raise you fag hags and political lesbians, TRAs are the current lets say sexual pile of shit that has came from your side of the room. Men? MGTOW, passport bros and even though the name was came up with by a woman incels (and I have very little patience or sympathy for incels and absolutely fuck all for the more militant ones).

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Seems Kathleen Stock’s admission, that feminists created this shit in their attempt to theorise their way out of reality, really struck a nerve with some people. They obviously don’t like reality and reacted the same way as the troons do when confronted with it, with threats of sexual violence and strawmen… interesting that.

        [–]wylanderuk 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Which is why I am of the very firm opinion that TRAs are doing to feminists is exactly what feminists have been doing to others for decades.

        [–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I see it more as a match of personality disorders--like how if you put a hotep and an Estonian ultranationalist in a room together their argument will be vicious, but ultimately they're just the same person in a different skin

        by 2014 the radfems were on top of the world--they wrote the law exempting themselves from being rapists and spouse beaters, they shut down the mixed shelters, they wrote the mandatory training sessions where you wouldn't have a degree or job unless you agreed to everything they said at the end, even a campus men's center with 1% the budget of its counterpart was blocked unless every male coming there for help were forced to admit that all their problems were because of patriarchy

        unfortunately nobody sane could fight them, but the warbling Yanivs of the world came scootypuffing over the horizon could take over everything they'd built

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Me?

        I said it was wrong then and now. Not sure where you think I said I hated feminists, I just posted about Kathleen Stock admitting that feminists opened the door to the trans nonsense.

        Also, nice using rape threats, did you learn that from the troons?

        [–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I meant the other person....

        [–]wylanderuk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Ah yes wishes of sexual assault on people...That is some real feminism there...Twat.

        [–]QueenBread 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        It really feels like the situation is changing, and steadily. Denying reality is a problem that was going to fix itself anyway. I'm just glad it's happening earlier than I'd hoped and with far less damage to society than it could've been.

        [–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

        I think we are at a dangerous stage. The political right seem to be coming round to the dangerous nonsense, but, the danger lies in how the political left responds and I worry that they are beginning to double down because of their belief that the right are evil and therefore being on the same side as the right on any issue is intolerable.

        The saving grace might be the pragmatic nature of elected officials, if they see the entire trans argument as a vote-loser then, no matter what their beliefs are, the issue might just go away quietly, dropped for fear of alienating floating voters required to maintain seats.

        [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        The right/left divide is both real, and working as planned to keep the cattle self-focused. Remember to pay your taxes.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        No, the right was right before. Now they're making their own dangerous nonsense.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Don't breathe just yet. If the pendulum does swing back, it's not going to stop in the middle.

        Already we're seeing loads of people go alt right in backlash to the crazy queer fad. This is not the solution we want.

        [–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I agree, but why limit it to girls and women? Surely everyone should be allowed to have civil discussions without getting brigaded and banned just for disagreeing (even ever so slightly in many cases) with the narrative?

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Because women are needed to create offspring for your overlords, whereas just a few men can impregnate all of them.

        [–]Ferretman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I have no idea who this person is, but he/she is more or less correct.

        Denying reality will turn out poorly eventually.

        [–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It's also called toxic positivity.