Can you explain why this woman was arrested?

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[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Because the world is not logical, tattoos are not an “identity” and currently no one is trying to claim oppression points for possessing tattoos.

It’s like the FGM vs Circumcision argument. The most minor type of FGM is less serious than circumcision and yet I have personally talked to the people who rightfully campaign against all forms of FGM who will defend circumcision as both a cultural practice and as having health benefits (which are bullshit).

Here you have people decrying a bit of epidermal ink one moment, who are screaming for castration/mutilation to be available after a declaration of faith/self-ID by a minor.

The world is crazy.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Oh, the amount of rage that I feel when someone shrugs off circumcision while decrying FGM. They either don't see it as being the same because the former is only applied to boys--which, I rather suspect, they don't care about but don't quite have the reproductive fortitude to actually say as much--or they (as you mentioned) are obsessed about some mythical health issue that apparently can only be avoided by chopping off a bit of meat instead of regularly using soap and hot water.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

It's entirely a religious issue imho. The health discussion only gets brought into the picture as a way to change the subject away from that. Especially with christians since the new testament pretty much blatantly states circumcision is unnecessary.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Most "Christians" anymore only care about the Old Testament.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Unfair; since the Old Testament is the Jewish Bible. Those "Christians" don't really like Jews all that much either, they just pretend they see them as human most of the year, but jump at the chance to fight the "War on Christmas" because it's the only time of the year it's socially acceptable to take their mask off.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I think most are fine with Jews. They even support Israel more than actual Jews who don't live in Israel. They don't seem racist either.

Over the past couple of years though, they have gotten extremely hostile toward gay and trans people, and more recently even toward people who don't behave stereotypically for their gender (which is ironic, because gender norms are the bedrock of the trans agenda). This is because many false flag operations and psyops by the left have been highly successful, and they've taken most of the bait.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

On the first part, these "Christians" support of Israel is more insidious than it sounds- there's a large section of fundamentalist Christians who support Israel not because they support Israel's right to exist, but rather support it because "the Bible claims that Armageddon will start in the Middle East, and so they consider it their moral imperative to do what it takes to instigate Armageddon because they truly believe if they start the end of the world, then Jesus will return for them." It's fucking psychotic and outright evil, and has nothing to do with whether they hate the group or not.

This is tied to the second- because the more these "Christians" act, the more it becomes clear they hate anyone who is not like them.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They also usually consider Jews "God's chosen people" and despise Hitler. Although that has been changing a bit lately.

I myself hope the end is near. I don't know how much more of this world I can take, nor anyone. It really is awful, and the only people who don't think so are the ones who have never questioned it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah if we are talking about "apocalypse now" types their support of Israel essentially comes down to less "let's hurry along the apocalypse" and more "my interpretation of biblical prophecy is 100% correct and not open for debate, so I must do XYZ or else I will go to hell" since they now think support of the Israeli stage is prophesied it's what God wants and they can't go against God.

Most of the time this kind of absolutist thinking is simply harnessed by others with political motivations. It's not at all a new phenomenon though, you've had christians convinced they'd see the second coming in their lifetime since Jesus time essentially. It's pretty crazy but makes sense when you consider that it's a form of woke in a sense. They're "awoken" to the truth of one particular interpretation of the bible that is 100% true with no room for discussion or nuance. And if reality contradicts that truth then reality must be a lie.

Had a lot of these discussions back during the evolution vs creationism controversies, I'm actually surprisingly in favor of having the discussions if only because I think it's important that kids growing up in schools actually know what their peers believe rather than having everything in kind of semi-exclusive bubbles. That said much like with the woke the hardliners really can't tolerate open discussions because it lends itself to the possibility that people will make a better argument that convinced people, which of course must be satanic.

These days with the woke it's the same kind of mindset. People become convinced they know the absolute truth and that any discussion around it must come from a place of evil. Rather depressing how it infects institutions and cripples their ability to get anything done but it's nothing new, we've just never seen an all encompassing form of it spread via the internet into all walks of life, in the past it spread via churches much more slowly since that was the "social media" of the time.

The history of what a lot of American christians believe to the be the absolute 100% total truth and correct interpretation of the bible is rather ironic. Take the pre-tribulation rapture beliefs for example. Pretty ubiquitous in the public consciousness, yet most christians don't believe it is biblical. Most evangelical non-denominational types believe it, and they believe that it was what the early church leaders and apostles believed as well, which is pretty historically illiterate considering nobody wrote about it until that one girl thought it up via a fever dream in the 1800's. Funnily enough they already know the truth though so don't bother to study history that might confuse them. Same logic applies to the sciences, ignore the material reality of the universe if it disagrees with what you already know to be true. And the same applies to the woke although it lacks any sort of overreaching doctrinal authority that can slow the mutation of ideas. "You can be anything you want to be" kind of pathological positivity teachings gets spread to everything even when it makes no sense. You can be a woman even if you have a penis. It's ablist to say a blind person can't be a bus driver. You can do whatever you want you just gotta believe, in yourself instead of God I guess, but really I won't criticize either so long as it isn't done to the point of lunacy, if you believe in yourself enough that you think you can fly like super man I don't see any substantial difference between that belief and believing God will rescue you if you jump off the temple roof.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, and it does make the point: Wokeness has become a religion in the modern era. They both have a firm belief in a soul, they each are built around "you are literally, inherently evil by virtue of not being one of us, and only by being one of us and doing everything we say can you be saved", they have a firm belief "everyone is really one of us, they just don't know it yet!"- and thus, anything they do to force someone to join them is justified and indeed the most heroic act any human can do, they both have a big list of tenets their believers are expected to do, they each preach 'believe and all things are possible", they each refuse debate because debate could make them see they're wrong.

Actually, that's kind of unfair: Religion is actually more positive than wokeness since religion believes in an afterlife. At least in religion they say "if you do everything we say and march lockstep to our beliefs, when you die you'll get to live forever in a paradise." The woke don't give you even something like "if you do everything we say and march lockstep to our beliefs, when you die your soul will be reborn into the gender/species it is at its heart and you'll have your true experience as a paradise". Shit, they go the opposite and flat out say "...and even if you join us, your privilege means you can never truly be saved and be one of us. You will ALWAYS be literally, inherently evil, and no matter how hard you work for us, when you die we will say 'Here lies an -ist/-phobe. HEY EVERYONE, let's all piss on their grave!"

[–]Athelhilda4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They support Israel because they believe Israel needs to exist for the rapture and Armageddon to happen. They don’t actually like Jews or Judaism.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They do see the Jews as "God's chosen people".

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's more about the fear of having a child who's not "normal" enough. And it's probably heavily suggested by doctors to mothers who are vulnerable and not very intelligent to begin with, just like formula feeding is.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's because males are disposable, so who cares if we hurt them right? Just don't you dare touch our special golden angel princess girls!

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

The kid's mom claims she thought the tattoo would be temporary? Really?!? Like, you presumably sat there while your kid was getting a needle full of ink repeatedly stuffed into his arm, and you thought it would just go away the next time he showered?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Retards gonna retard.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

That's believable to me. The American underclass is astonishingly stupid.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or she's claiming that because it's the only thing that she can think of that might see her ass not getting locked up. Which isn't any less stupid, of course, because the judge would have to be a certified window licker themselves to accept it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Definitely plausible. But it's like the "I'm only pretending to be retarded" meme. If you pretend to be stupid to get out of trouble, you aren't pretending.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a lie for the judge. People of low intelligence can't lie well at all. It's people with high intelligence who are the expert liars.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Certainly chipit.

She's charged with

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/260.10

SECTION 260.10

Endangering the welfare of a child

Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE O, ARTICLE 260 § 260.10 Endangering the welfare of a child.

A person is guilty of endangering the welfare of a child when:

  1. He or she knowingly acts in a manner likely to be injurious to the physical, mental or moral welfare of a child less than seventeen years old or directs or authorizes such child to engage in an occupation involving a substantial risk of danger to his or her life or health; or

  2. Being a parent, guardian or other person legally charged with the care or custody of a child less than eighteen years old, he or she fails or refuses to exercise reasonable diligence in the control of such child to prevent him or her from becoming an "abused child," a "neglected child," a "juvenile delinquent" or a "person in need of supervision," as those terms are defined in articles ten, three and seven of the family court act.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Just so everyone knows, the above is a paid poster trying to disrupt our conversations on this site. Click the "block user" button above and disengage.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, the new York state legislature are paying me to help explain, why this woman got arrested.

Thanks for giving everyone the heads up chipit. Yes, if you're reading this, please be aware, the NY senate are paying me to help answer questions about the legal code.

I hope it was helpful for you to understand the criteria for guilt under this law.

I didn't check the family court act but I'll bet she fell afoul of number 2.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Block and disengage.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Your post asked a question, the person responded with a succinct answer. How is any of that a disruption, unless you were asking the initial question in bad faith?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

He has a history of being a paid poster posting disruptive content. I'm reminding everyone of that. Why possibly jump to his defense? Weird.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I take every interaction at face value. When I see someone using a post history as a way to try to negate legitimate information, I react. It's not a defense of anyone, it's stating what the audience sees.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

He constantly defends Biden and Pfizer. Those keywords have to be on his company's social media dashboard.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

If you say so. I don't search people's histories. Was their response to your question asking why the woman was arrested inaccurate in any way?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You're playing defense for him, eh? Another one...

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Believe what you want. But dismissing accurate information because of the source is just as bad as believing inaccurate because of the source. Sorry if I didn't contribute to the echo chamber you were seeking.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Just so everyone knows, the above is a paid poster trying to radicalise users of this site. Click the "block user" button above and disengage.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wow, you really got triggered by being exposed, eh?

/u/Chipit is a long-time poster who consistently and regularly posts dissident political content, quite unlike what paid posters are employed to do. He's a great example of what this site needs more of. The group of paid posters that plague this site consider him a threat, which is all you need to know.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

/u/Chipit is a long-time poster who consistently and regularly posts dissident political content, quite unlike what paid posters are employed to do. He's a great example of what this site needs more of. The group of paid posters that plague this site consider him a threat, which is all you need to know.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't see a problem with body affirming care. Children know who they are. The regret rate is miniscule and usually driven by lack of acceptance from others, like that busybody nurse.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because obviously good people abandon children to abusers and don't get involved. Wait no, that's what heroes do.