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[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The troonette was enjoying that performative rage, there was a little smile on her face. There was also nothing masculine about that screaming either, that was teenage girl strop waah waah bullshit.

It’s like that “It’s Ma’am!” troon, his reaction was completely male and not at all feminine.

It’s almost as if you can’t keep up the pretence when emotion/adrenaline is pumping and your true nature is pushed to the fore.

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Set the playback rate to 0.25x and play it from the 0.07 mark. You can practically feel the surge of T.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Dangerous games, squaring up to a man whilst pretending to be a man, there’s a reason that young boys roughhouse and playfight and get into little scraps - it’s all a learning experience and if you’ve not had that experience you might accidentally tread into danger.

I wonder if she would have reacted that way if there was no barrier between her and the guy she was angry with.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Plenty of young girls roughhouse and fight too. The fights I had with the older of my brothers had nothing 'play' about them. They were nasty and vicious and I was doubly hampered by the fact that him getting stronger than me coincided with me reaching an age where I understood that certain tactics could cause permanent damage and didn't want to actually injure him. So I stopped kicking him hard in the balls while he was still literally going for my jugular. We're good friends now though!

Odds are that girl is taking artificial T and while there is little real study done on it, for political reasons. There is a lot of anecdotal evidence that when women take artificial T (for non genuine medical reasons) they show massively increased levels of aggression. We're not meant to have that amount of testosterone coursing through us and I think it might even fuck with us more than it does for men who juice for bodybuilding.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I know that some girls rough house and playfight with their brothers, but those brothers also know that if they give the girl a black eye they are going to be in ridiculous amounts of trouble.

I had a little brother, but plenty of my friends had sisters and I’d see the sisters slap and hit my friends and watch as they did little to nothing in return because they knew the second they reacted the way I would react to my little brother doing something similar their dads would be involved.

In fact I’ve watched something similar happen with a friend’s children, the older boy was getting slapped around by his little sister until he had had enough and slapped her back, my friend then instantly jumped in to chastise the boy.

So yeah, girls may roughhouse and playfight, but there are different rules in operation.

Also, having observed children on the playground (I’m a teacher, it’s my job….I’m not some weirdo peering through the fence) for over a decade, you see almost no roughhousing by girls whereas it’s pretty much all boys do until they hit about 12, and they do it with unrelated boys and they seem to go pretty hard at each other but rarely go overboard. I personally think that a lot of the rules in schools, with regards to banning that sort of behaviour, have been a disaster for boys, robbing them of a major part of their socialisation process.

You’re probably not wrong about the exogenous T though, getting that roid rage running.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I’m a teacher, it’s my job….I’m not some weirdo peering through the fence

You're a regular on this site. Trust me, you're plenty weird :D.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Haha, I might be weird for posting here, but I’m not peer through the playground fence in a stained raincoat weird. ;D

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm the oldest in my family, so I'd generally get in trouble more often than not as I should have known better. My family has always been very 'equal opportunity' roughhousing though. My parents and uncles used to literally throw me across the room to each other from as soon as I could support my own head well enough until I got too heavy. I'll definitely accept that we'd be an exception though, my friends with brothers were in shock at times at how my brother and I would tear into each other. I'd fight with male friends too if I thought they'd fouled me at soccer or something and I gave a boy a bloody nose once as he pushed me off my chair to take it for himself. (I suspect he had easy nose bleeds rather than me being super strong.) It wasn't until I was an older teenager that there was ever any particular gendering to how my parents treated us and then that was more to do with the fact we faced different types of dangers if we were out at night.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So the question is, with your experience of scrapping with boys growing up, are you more or less likely to puff out your chest and square up to an unknown man? Or, do you find that you recognise when a man goes from annoyed/annoying to dangerous and a threat and therefore are able to detect/avoid trouble better?

I’m betting the second, you have a better read on men from being exposed to the roughhousing.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think my biggest eye opening moment was doing martial arts in my 20s. I've always known men are stronger but I'm very small so used to equate their strength with their size. In martial arts I was the second strongest woman in my group and could hit and kick harder than much bigger women. But the first time my instructor got me to practice defensive moves on the smallest man in our group was mind blowing. He was smaller than many of the women I was stronger than but it took him no effort to pin me. I felt like when a normal person goes up against Superman.

I think that most women who genuinely understand the physical differences between men and women are women who do sports or strength training. Especially male dominated sports. Most women like those in the video haven't done any sports since pe at school and they skipped most of those classes because of cramps. Then they watched Buffy and thought it was a documentary. They don't truly know just how strong men are and they don't ever feel good from sports and know why they shouldn't take it off women who do love it. It's why I have the most contempt for women like Megan Rapinoe. She fucking knows full well that she's lying and she knows what she's taking off the women coming up after her.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then they watched Buffy and thought it was a documentary.

And totally ignored the fact that Buffy is (because of the Slayer thing) enhanced well above human norms for either sex. Which didn't keep her from getting ragdolled anyway on occasion.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I genuinely cannot believe that any woman with male friends/siblings/partners is not aware of the difference. Though there's a difference between knowing men are stronger and understanding how fucking easy it is for someone to pin you down or move you around even if you're struggling. That's what they don't get. I think for most it becomes very clear around puberty and those who don't get the memo either get a sad and painful lesson later or aim to take away women's sports because they don't understand how large that gap is.

[–]xoenix[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, that might lead to it for examples like this one for the same "snart daywalker" stuff of "they want all the privileges of both genders and none of the drawbacks of either". In this case, the trans man is seeing the problem of "those women who will try to beat the crap out of a man, specifically doing so because they know she could shoot the man in the face and if the man merely grabs her arm to push the gun away or disarm her he's instantly the worst kind of villain and any good man will attack him for her", while not realizing if a man is in that situation, it's "you tried to fight this man? Fuck around and find out."

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if she would have reacted that way if there was no barrier between her and the guy she was angry with.

He's lucky there was one, I'm sure she'd assert. 😄

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

She's getting hysterical like only a man with a uterus can. 😆

[–]clownworlddropout 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We've gone past enabling mental illness to straight up fostering it, this young lady is brainwashed and she doesn't even know it yet.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She probably had a class teaching rage just before this.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TL;DRW: I'm not like the other yaoi-obsessed, terminally online basic bitches, and don't you dare say otherwise!