TRANSGENDERThe Scottish National Party is determined to make Gender Self-ID the bill they die on, and in the process make sure the issue is electorally deader in the UK than Greyfriar Bobby’s master.

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[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

These guys seem determined to lose electability for a generation.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It comes with the territory for doing something fucked up in the name of equality.

If you're doing something fucked up against equality, there's always a chance you see the error of your ways and change plans. You do something fucked up in the name of equality? You know you're on the Right Side of History[tm]. You truly believe you're doing the right thing and that to go against it is oppressing people. You will NEVER change your mind no matter what happens; hell, you'll double down on it because you know anyone who disagrees are bigots doing it out of hatred.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals. - C S Lewis

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah I think the dipshit wants to try and leverage it into "look Westminster are oppressing Scotland, we are fighting for you!!!!!!" more than anything else.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It’s weird that this is the thing that could do it considering, and I’m speaking as a non-resident of Scotland, they’ve been chronically mismanaging Scotland for the best part of a decade with failing standards in schools, health and numerous suspicious government contracts that have gone way over budget and then failed or under-delivered.

I think the SNP have been an utter disaster for Scotland and I suspect that a lot of Scots, even pro-independence ones, are secretly glad that the IndyRef failed because an independent Scotland run by this shower would be Darien Scheme II:Fail Faster, Fail Harder.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, I hadn't heard of the Darien scheme before.

I live in the province of Nova Scotia in Canada, so I've always had affection for the Scots, for whom this place is named. That said, they seem to have a history of being silly buggers.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My take is that governments manage to get away with absurdity for long periods of time because the outcome is a bureaucratic spiderweb of policies and numbers. Like trying to pin down how the government is mismanaging budgets requires tracing money through a bunch of Russian nesting dolls of budgeting.

When the government legislates something which clearly and inarguably harms people's children they all suddenly take notice.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I sorta doubted the SNP would even survive a Yes vote, since they got the only thing they really wanted and now would have to govern basically on their own (and without London's dole, especially if Shetland remembered it was THEIR oil)

[–]wylanderuk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aye they seem to be a shower of shite, but both labour and the tories have at sperate times managed to shit the bed up here. It probably does not help that the SNP have had to get in bed with the greens to stay in power.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At the top of Yousaf’s to-do list is the revival of his predecessor’s bonkers push for gender self-identification – a proposed legal change that was blocked by the UK government earlier this year, using Section 35 of the Scotland Act. The Sunday Times reports Yousaf telling journalists: ‘I made abundantly clear throughout the course of the leadership contest that my starting principle is to challenge the Westminster veto over the GRR [Gender Recognition Reform] bill… I’ll be making an announcement on the potential challenge of the Section 35 order imminently.’

SNP ministers have until 17 April to launch a legal challenge to the decision to block the GRR and they are expected to do so this week. The Westminster government vetoed the proposed legislation largely because of concerns about the impact it would have on the rights of women and children across England and Wales. The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) wrote to the Scottish government to warn of exactly these issues when the GRR was first introduced. The EHRC pointed out that a change in Scottish law would also have ramifications across the border. It also highlighted how the proposals might undermine existing laws protecting women’s rights.

In the weeks after MSPs voted the GRR bill through, the clear drawbacks of self-identification became all too clear. In January, stories began to break of violent, male sex offenders being housed in women’s prisons, as Scottish prisons were already effectively operating under a self-identification policy. There was widespread horror. MSPs were asked to clarify if they believed that criminals like Andrew Burns (aka Tiffany Scott), Adam Graham (aka Isla Bryson), Lennon Dolatowski (aka Katie Dolatowski) were really women as they claimed to be.

Before all of this emerged, then first minister Nicola Sturgeon had dismissed fears that gender self-identification could compromise women’s safety as ‘not valid’. After her bill was blocked by Westminster, she smeared the bill’s opponents as ‘transphobic… misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well’.

But the Scottish public clearly saw through the smears and the hollow reassurances. A YouGov survey carried out last year on behalf of The Times found that the majority of the public disagreed with every major measure in the GRR bill. Sixty per cent of respondents disagreed with the proposal to allow people to self-declare their own gender without a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Sixty-six per cent were also opposed to the lowering of the age limit to obtain a gender-recognition certificate, from 18 to 16. The GRR bill also sparked the SNP’s largest parliamentary rebellion to date. Many commentators attributed Sturgeon’s decision to step down in February to the failure of the GRR – her ‘flagship policy’ – to win public support.

[–]oatcake 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The establishment got its hooks into the SNP back in 2014/5. It only became obvious to us plebs in the wake of the Brexit vote 2016 - open goal for the independence movement, but the trust had been put into a captured organisation. Hence the years of fuck all happening in that regard. When 'wait and see with Brexit' had run its course, and then Covid came and went, its been nothing but TRANS TRANS TRANS for the last couple years. Traitors is too kind a term for these people.