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[–]xoenix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Keir Starmer has been warned that the trans issue and self-ID in particular are election losing issues. However, I believe that there’s a very strong lobby within Labour that’s completely ideologically possessed by the trans issue - the deputy leader is in that grouping.

I imagine there will be more discussion at the next conference. I suspect that the reason that that tweet was made was because it is following the currently held Labour positions and new positions will require votes at conference before they can state them, iirc.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Of course. The issue is no longer about trans rights, but the battleground between "people calling out the amount of cluster-B fuckheads who are openly using this to demand the world worship the ground they walk on" vs. "people who truly believe this is the new battleground for equality, they are on the right side of history, and they must stay the course for the good of society."

Ironically, it's likely if the other side accepted the amount of cluster-B fuckheads and called them out, then the one side would be more than willing to accept trans rights.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If the TRAs were simply arguing for equal rights, access to evidence-based healthcare and tolerance then they would have almost no pushback these days. Trouble is, they want total capitulation, celebration and to impinge upon the rights of others, both sex-based rights and even more importantly freedom of speech, association, thought and conscience.

They essentially started a fight and got a little cocky when they won the first round with a loaded glove and they’re complaining now that the glove has been taken away.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are the people who at the protest against Dave Chappelle, broke a person's sign against them in two and then screamed the person was holding a stick as a weapon; does it SHOCK YOU they complain the loaded glove they had was taken away after the first round?