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[–]jacques1102[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I'd seriously like to ask these gay rights organisations if genitals(or biological sex)has nothing to do with same sex attraction then how do they define homosexuality then?Cause no matter how hard they try to be trans inclusive they can't win without taking consideration for those who don't identify as trans and are gnc.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Your problem here is that you think the snarts have any standard except "I want to have sex with anyone I want to have sex with, and if anyone rejects me they should be punished". Yes, they would say all of those questions, as long as the snart wants to sleep with them.

If there's one thing to cause the peaking of these ones, it's that after decades of saying how rotten, how entitled, how reprehensible they were, and how consent was the most important rule in the world and to ignore it was the worst thing a human could do, the woke decided to let the incels have their way because they wore a spinny dress when they asked for it. THAT is the real question that needs to be asked that isn't: If a transcel is told they're owed sex for being trans like they demanded, and if to count as trans is as simple as saying "it wouldn't break me up if you use 'they' for me as well as he, even if I'm mostly he/him", then eventually it gets to "well, if the line for being trans and thus the world owing you sex or a relationship is THAT low, then by logic the cis incel who doesn't say the magic cheat code has the right to say they are entitled to sex or a relationship too, and it's the object of their affection's moral imperative to take one for the team and give them the sex they want, just like people are told to do for trans people."

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

the whole "cotton ceiling" talk was what split me from the newest cohort of "trans" (spoiler alert, it means women's panties): it's like the college students into HAES, it's never about getting the heavier guy a date, it's about someone overcoming "fatphobia" to date THEM

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thank you, it's the same here.

As a man who isn't lucky in love and knows, ultimately, that I'm nothing special- I can respect it when people choose better men than I am. I mean, they have something that the person wants, and it's nothing to be mad about if someone's choice isn't you. But when the most rotten of the incels, the ones where calling them a piece of shit would be an insult to shit, are able to cloak themselves in trans rights as their cheat code to go from the bottom to the top of Oppression Olympics in order to change the struggle for equality to their single issue "someone let me get my pee pee wet", openly say this is their plan- and they're not only allowed to get away with it, but society bows and demands people give them sex and a relationship because now they're an accepted idpol group...well, now it makes me start to think "What about me?"

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think incels took the whole "the hot girls always go with the smug douche" and just stopped at "smug douche"

another factor is the common momism that "you're good enough as you are"--so if a pretzel-stick-armed goon with no hobbies, social graces, or idea of what they want in life gets rejected ("rejected" = "stood in corner of the room saying nothing for 3 hours and glaring at everyone, so mistifyingly girls weren't literally throwing themselves at me"), that means there's something wrong with everyone ELSE

for further reading, https://archive.org/details/DiaryOfASupremeGentleman/page/n1/mode/2up

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm on a low incel-rhetoric diet, so I wouldn't look at the website, but it is the case.

Ultimately it ties for all the people doing the incel rhetoric of any gender/sexuality: If you want to be loved by a certain person, then you have to be the type of person that that person would want to love in return. If you're an ugly, unpleasant human to be around, and you're aiming for the hottest people on the planet...the odds are you're not going to get one outside of pity [and in all likeliness you're such a wretched person that you're beyond pity], money [and in all likeliness you could have Jeff Bezos money and it wouldn't work], or the prospect of US citizenship [and in all likeliness even someone stuck in a country where a genocide is being committed would choose to stay there over being your mail-order bride.]

[–]OuroborosTheory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's Elliot Rodger's pathetic "manifesto" remade as a Diary of a Wimpy Kid book, it's actually hilarious (except for the deaths) how much of a failure of a living organism he was: the first page is him BAWWING because someone took the first slice of his 3rd birthday cake, an act which he never forgot or forgave; being thrown off a 10-foot cliff after trying to do the same to college girls is also delightful

(also he gets murderously angry at losing the lottery despite having bought so! many! tickets! and unashamedly tallies how often he cried over the phone to his stepmom to get money)

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay then, that works a little easier.