If sexuality was about gender expression then what's stopping gays from not liking GNC people of the opposite sex that don't identify as trans?

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[–]LtGreenCo 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

When I see an attractive woman, then as you might expect from a straight man, it tends to elicit some form of positive mental cascade of sexual thoughts.

But when I see a tranny, it's the opposite. Even if they've made themselves as unmistakably feminine as possible, it's no good. Every fiber of my being is sickened and repelled at even the most vague notion of intimacy with them.

So assuming my experience is pretty average for a man, then I'm guessing it's not just the aesthetic and performative traits of a woman that men are attracted to, it's also the knowledge that she is a real woman. You gotta check all those boxes or we just aren't interested. I imagine it's similar for other sexes and orientations.

[–]SerpensInferna 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I'm a lesbian and when I see a tranny I have much the same reaction. Every fiber of my being screams that something is wrong and there is a threat. Until a few years ago I would push those feelings down and "be nice" (never dated one of course) but now I don't even bother. I avoid or sneer. And that's even for the "passing" ones.

On the other hand, there's a lot of transmen that are just stuck at being cute butchy girls, that I do feel some kind of attraction to because everything about them is still 'woman'. Obviously even if I think they're attractive I avoid them too because they're batshit or dealing with stuff I just do not need to have in my life, but the rules of attraction don't change.

[–]jacques1102[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The funny thing is that there was a poll i saw that was taken a year(maybe two)ago that showed that more lesbians are willing to date a trans man than a trans woman and the trans people on reddit were complaining about it."Gee it's almost like biological sex still matters and no one cares about gender identity."Also saw that only 11% of lesbians were willing to date a trans woman.I seriously am curious as to how many gay people truly support the "trans women are women and trans men are men" narrative yet wont date a trans person that was the opposite sex.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What are the odds most of that 11% of lesbians were actually transbians. Because it was either that or they are lying. Because even the bisexual women who would be attracted to a transwoman are few and far between. The only women who have sex with transwomen are the women who married a man who transed years into the marriage and she's still stuck on loving the man she married enough to try and go along with his new identity.

[–]LtGreenCo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah sometimes I'll see one of those nonbinary girls and think, "she'd probably be drop-dead gorgeous if she stopped trying to look like a pseudo-male". It's a shame what this social contagion is doing to people who might've otherwise turned out normal.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When I see an attractive woman, then as you might expect from a straight man, it tends to elicit some form of positive mental cascade of sexual thoughts.

I used to do that all the time also. That's just the male sex drive / biological imperative. Makes it hard for men and women to be friends. Also I understand why some f2m and even some lesbians want to avoid that attention. It might be cool if only attractive awesome people eyefucked you, but it's not...

Women have issues with this too. They don't have the reputation for it, but they absolutely do it too.