r/honesttransgender had the most sane post of the last 24 hours and it was deleted by the moderators: "Maybe it's too late, and this is what the trans movement has become, and this is how it ends."

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not even surprised the mods jumped to get rid of this. It's a direct attack on their carefully constructed fantasy that they're the victims of an omnipresent threat against their very existence.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Guardian has switched to reporting on Republicans not wanting to join with Democrats to pass gun control and no mention of the shooter.

I suspect that the left wing press is going to push this off the front page as quickly as possible.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Bets on whether they'll get it done before that supposed manifesto is released? Because I'm pretty that, if it exists, it'll be everything that the TRAs are currently working themselves into lather over on the troon subs at Reddit.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect the TroonPatrol at The Guardian are shitting it, but having just had a look at PinkNews I think I know what they’re planning on doing.

They’re going to pull the same shit they do when someone pulls a Allahu Ackbang, and focus on the backlash against the “community”. PinkNews is talking about how Twitter has monetised the “groomer slur” and how AOC is attacking some Republican for being transphobic for mentioning testosterone in a tweet about the shooting. So I think we will see more of that from PN and The Guardian and other left leaning outlets, whereas the Daily Mail had “Trans Shooter Takedown!” as the headline for the cops’ bodycam footage of them terminating the threat and has a whole section devoted to uncovering the background to the killer Troon.

For a taste of how morally bankrupt The Guardian is when it comes to reporting on Islamic terror in the UK, a couple of years ago some Islamic terrorist beheaded one and killed a further two a gay men in a park near London, the story dropped off out of The Guardian within a day never to be mentioned again, not even when they were recounting terror attacks and yet they were playing up the threat from “the far right” as of NAZIs were murdering people in Ghettos in Camden Town. It’s deliberate and they don’t realise that doing it isn’t going to be good for the country it will just build resentment. The Guardian under the previous editor wasn’t like this.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

If they're looking for genocide against them (a stupid term, because trans isn't genetic), this would be a good way to turn everyone against them and start herding them into camps. But Reddit doesn't want to have any discussion about their darling angels.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

So Reddit is fomenting this and is complicit in violence. As someone who believes in a spirit world, these people are being possessed or influenced by entities.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Doesn’t need belief in the spirit world, they’re ideologically possessed, their ideology fills their thoughts, colours their perception of the world and drives their actions and pushback against it is treated like a violent attack on them. It’s wickedly dangerous, and it happens on the left and right and the internet, social media in particular, seem to be a fantastic way to cause it.

[–]Chipit 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

People don't have ideologies; ideologies have people.

You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on an ideology.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, Dawkins was right to write about memes (as in spreading ideas, not amusing cat pictures) in 1976, it just took 40 years for us to fully see it, but it is a good explanation of how these ideas develop, take hold, spread, and then are eventually replaced by stronger ones.

It just so happens that in the 40 years since RD came up with the theory, we have built the perfect meme spreading machine in social media.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Of course it doesn't need it, but spirits exist whether or not you believe it. They can influence anyone, and when you read the writings of some trannies, it's textbook possession. Spirits can make you feel things - including feeling like a girl. They can also inject thoughts into your mind in a variety of ways, and all the while, you'll believe those thoughts originated from your brain.

[–]QueenBread 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

This whole "spirits" bullshit sounds like a good excuse to never blame yourself for anything. A spirit made me do it! Perhaps if you study how the brain works you'll find out your spirit religion does in fact have a basis in actual biological reality, you know.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

biological reality is an illusion. you are not your body and NDEs testify of that. Labeling things "biological reality" begs the question, by the way. Spirits interact with bodies just fine, because you are one and inhabit that meat suit of yours.

[–]QueenBread 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Oh, buddy, I can't even imagine the leaps you need to make to believe that "biological reality is an illusion" or that "you're not your body". I guess you'd also fit with the trans activists alright, you seem to have the same beliefs.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.youtube.com/@hospicenursejulie/videos Talk to a hospice nurse about the strange things they've witnessed. Also, read up on the hard problem of consciousness. Here's another link: nderf.org

Have fun!

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh wow, I am sooooo convinced right now!

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can't imagine the leaps you have to make to think you are your body. Unless you are a robot that is nonsense.

You've become so occupied with the affairs of this world that you've forgotten you even exist.

And yes, reality is an illusion too. Evil beings rule this world and its not hard to figure out seeing how nature works.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I wasn’t arguing against your belief. Just saying ideological possession is a thing, it spreads and social media has a lot of blame for this. Whether the origin of the ideology in the mind is from a spiritual or terrestrial source I have no idea.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

i totally agree with you. My question is though: why did it take hold so fast and so far? Why are people all of a sudden going nuts?

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don’t think they’ve suddenly gone nuts, I think this has bloomed over the past decade with the rise of social media and the increasing importance that the lazy media has placed on what some twat said on twitter or instagram.

I can’t imagine any of this happening if the media hadn’t become so lazy and reliant on twitter hot-takes. And twitter et al wouldn’t have the status that they have now without the media treating it as a man on the street instead of the lunatic in the corner that it really is.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Transgenderism would have never caught hold in previous decades, and by suddenly I'm referring to the point at which is took hold and gained traction. Why now? I think things really got crazy starting in 2016.

[–]Datachost 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They'd already made some serious gains decades ago, let's not forget many countries have had the legal right to change your sex on official documents a decade or more before they legalised same sex marriage. As for why it's exploded over the last decade, a mixture of social media allowing for social contagions to spread even faster and to allow a variety of freaks to find each other when previously they would have been isolated cases and would have learned to become normal(ish). As well as a number of charities desperate to keep the gravy train going after gay marriage was pushed through. Look at how many charities which previously focussed on gay rights now heavily push trans stuff, often to the detriment of their previous causes. Then of course there's the financial aspect, both on an industrial level and an individual level (certain high profile billionaires pushing it for their own interests).

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. The Gender Recognition Act 2004 allowed people to alter their legal gender after a set of qualifications.

Now they’re trying to get rid of the qualifications. They’ve played a long game, well over 25 years of lobbying for the fetish to be recognised as “real”.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Social media, gay rights organisations getting gay marriage and having no reason to exist any more pivoting to troonery, munchausen-by-proxy mothers getting social clout from transing their kids.

With FTM troons you also have the much higher chance of social contagion, which is a thing that is far more powerful amongst teen girls than it is among teen boys and why the spikes in the numbers of teen girls seeking gender “medicine” far outweighs the numbers of teen boys - men seem to Troon out later having developed their AGP fetish. The spike in girls is what called attention to the UK’s Tavistock Clinic and brought about its soon to happen closure, it was a seriously suspicious statistic.

I suspect that had there been no social media (twitter, FB, insta and discord) then there would be very few FTM troons.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=transgender&hl=en-US It really spiked in 2015ish.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Looking back, the building blocks of this have been being placed for a while. The pseudo-feminist 'theybe' trend laid some of the groundwork for the obsession with gender. The adoption of social media allowed bad ideas to spread rapidly and conditioned people for groupthink. Caitlin Jenner appears to have been a tipping point wherein everyone got the message that trans was cool (even though Jenner is hated by the trans mob now).

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

John Money was the beginning of it. It's no surprise to me that under his care, two adults died from suicide after he experimented on them, just like 41 percent do today. It never caught on until fairly recently. There were always trannies, but they were truly marginalized back then and were out of the spotlight.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There were definitely a lot of building blocks.

You cannot deny that the tabula rasa/blank slate nonsense of the social constructionists didn’t have a massive role in developing gender identity theory and feminists were massively involved in pushing that stuff, because it removed all the pesky biological sex differences - meaning all inequalities were down to patriarchy - which complicated their arguments about women and men. But in heavily pushing that shit they opened the door for the devil of troonery and invited him into the stall with his ladypenis. Are they to blame for it all, absolutely not, but I still have feminist friends who adamantly refuse to admit there are biological differences between men and women (except for the baby making equipment).

There will no doubt be future PhD theses written on the causal elements of troonery, and someone will synthesise all the disparate social sciences and humanities pieces that lead us down this road. Hopefully they also compile a list of all the people who bear responsibility for the industrial abuse of children that it is bringing about.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Of course they are, but what does that change.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The sad thing is, the more and more things like this happen, the more and more it feels like many of the snarts openly WANT genocide against them. They have seen for the last decade that trans rights have moved so quickly, so fast compared to other social equality, that it's clear that most people are good and are saying "you want your seat at the table? All you had to do is ask. Welcome."

And this makes these people SICK. These are the children who grew up on a steady diet of Harry Potter and the Hunger Games, and they get physically ill seeing people happily give them their rights. They want oppression, they want genocide, because it's not about equality, equity, supremacy, or whatever, it's about getting to fight for something. It's about getting to be Katniss or Harry Potter and actually fight Nazis for their right to exist, and you don't get to fight for your right to exist when people are quite happy to let you exist and give you equality.

So you have people openly trying to hinder the fight so that they, personally, get to be the hero who gave their group equality.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're on to something there. I've been saying for a while that modern society's biggest problem is that we have no real problems anymore.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

because trans isn't genetic

Autogynephilia is 55% inherited.

BPD is 55% inherited.

coincidentally

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd hazard to guess the inheritance is because of abusive behaviour passed down from the parents rather than anything genetic.

[–]YJaewedwqewq 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unfortunately this tranny and the rest of her degenerate kin are getting exactly what they want. They are committing domestic terrorism to scare people into supporting their positions, and it's working because journalists are 100% on board with them. Originally it was "we'll keep murdering your kids until your accept gun bans and restrictions on speech", now it's "let the tranny groom your kid, or else the tranny will shoot your kid!"

And people (mistakenly) trust the news and of course they value their childrens' lives, so they are either convinced and start to agree, or they are bullied and threatened into relenting.

[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope this is how this "movement" ends, enough is enough with this lunacy. We all know the emperor wears no clothes.

[–]Fiyanggu 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

When evidence flies in the face of their facade that trans are very normal people, they go into Nazi censorship mode. Trans should be allowed to behave as they like, but when they start to dictate to the majority that they are the norm and the rest are abnormal, that's indicative of mental illness and they should be locked up or have those aberrant thoughts caned out of them.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds kinky. I don't act like them, but if locked up means bondage then I want in too okay? I don't want caned, but if you must be very very gentle.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, the #bekind brigade have managed to #bekind themselves a school shooter, grats gg.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

The trans babies will suffer because of the hateful right causing this stunning and brave individual to preemptivly act in self defense.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

It’s always the poor poor trans babies that suffer the most.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's strange that when troons rape and molest the standard argument which is trotted out is "not all trans, it's a tiny minority" but they don't seem to be able to make that argument with this shooting. This is odd as if anything this is an even tinier minority and risk.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The Guardian has a whole article now saying it’s still 90% cis males doing all the shooting. Total whataboutery and a massive strawman. They are such a bunch of cocks.

[–]M1GarandDad 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because they're several steps past "it's a tiny minority", past "it wasn't our intention", past "it's a good thing", up to "you deserve it".

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is my feeling.

Far too many troons (of both sexes) are far too happy this shooting has happened to disavow it.

[–]handbananasrevenge 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Death before de transition” totally not a death cult.

[–]cephyrious 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't get that they would be surprised by this. Almost every school shooter is some loser male with no social skills. That description fits A LOT of the transgender community :> I would have put all my money on MtF not FtM though.

[–]GraviHeel Hortler 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sanity is for the weak!

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The tranny cult is just another branch of the communist subversive-revolutionary operation that has been ongoing for the last 78 years.

[–]The_Best_Yak_Ever 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That makes me feel really sad. They’re 100 percent right of course. But it’s like the tragic villain experiencing that moment of clarity where the ask themselves legitimately, “oh my god… what have I done?”

They have been frothing themselves up into such a rage, and this is always where the story ended. Real people really being hurt and killed. Not imaginary “you don’t agree with everything I’m telling you you have to believe, so you’re committing violence against ME!” Or the grotesque “do as we say or your child will kill themselves!”

TRAs are the fucking villains who thought they were the heroes. Glad this person finally sees what we’ve seen this whole time. But the damage has been done. And I hope people remind them of reality, when they start up with their hate speech and rhetoric.

[–]Godknight 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In 10 years they will all kill themselves.

We don't have to do anything.

Just keep loving life, love women, love pussy, love children, just love sports and love guns.

Just keep loving while they keep hating and dying and killing themselves.

Love trans hate.

[–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most of TRAs are not trans themselves. They will not off themselves. They will keep their antisocial activities,until sane people have enough and put them in their place.

[–]Godknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they are TRA's then they're definitely not straight. Once again natural selection will take care of that filth.