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[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly. This could be either the best thing to happen or the worst thing to happen for trans rights, depending on their response to the shooter.

If trans people rise up as one and say "no, fuck this, we don't accept them as one of us, we're as disgusted as you are about this", then that could help people realize that trans people still have a soul and know when their own group does evil like any other group.

If they try circling the wagons like they did for Chris-Chan or other people who commit atrocities with "um, acktually, this person was trans and you misgendering her is literally worse than what they did" bullshit, it'll be the worst thing to happen to them.

The big reason for trans rights pushback is how few people know someone who's trans and believed the lies of them being boogeyman. Now's the time to show those people it's all lies and you're not all like this.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think the pushback is due to a twofold issue of social media politicizing it with brave new world style mnemonic nonsense and of the basic expansion of "gender affirming care" beyond what it used to be where after years of vetting and psychiatric visits you could get on hormones or get surgeries as an adult after you sifted out the homosexuals in denial and fetishists leaving only a small minority of extremely determined transitioners whatever that implies. It did mean the people knew what they were getting into. You can some detransitioners slip through back then but they often were doing it young and going through Thailand when they weren't getting approved here.

That's now changed and they're doing a number of things that is naturally going to enrage the general population.

  1. Bathrooms. Someone who has gone through all the operations and everything isn't going to be a big issue here. The problem is we just let people go with where they identify now. Clearly some rapist is going to identify as a girl so they can access the girls room to rape people. Is this person trans? Does that mean all trans people are rapists? Of course not. But you've gone thrown your lot in with the rapists by being stupid and creating this easy loophole that will be taken advantage of.

  2. Doing shit behind parents backs. Turns out parents don't like that. Also turns out that pedophiles love it since it can give them a way to groom and deflect all suspicion. Doesn't mean everyone doing it is a pedophile but again, wait and you'll eventually see "teacher than encouraged student to transition caught fucking student" bound to happen eventually. Will blow up in their face. As there is no excuse to hide this from the parents. None.

If you want to claim it's dangerous for the child, then fucking remove them from the parents of course. If the child fears for their own safety from the parents then the child shouldn't be with them eh? But you let the kid go home with them anyway except with "our little secret that you are actually a boy" um that's retarded. We both know you can't actually claim the child is in actual danger and that argument is bullshit. Because you'd not send the kid home to the dangerous parent if you were even the very least bit convinced of abuse, you are a fucking mandatory reporter. Your whole career would be fucked if something happened, don't give me that bullshit. Plus if the kid is socially out in class that means it's not a secret, the other kids know, they'll tell their parents, and their parents will tell the parents of the kid so they'll find out anyway. Fucking duh. If I was a kid in class I'd just tell the parents directly. Have you thought this out at all?

Finally people "demanding you respect them" bitch please. Didn't you ever learn that those teachers that went around screaming at the students to respect them were the ones that were the least respected and had the worst nicknames imaginable and were subjected to the worst pranks? Respect is earned not given. And you've got to respect yourself before anyone else does. You won't even care if someone calls you a name or "misgenders" you if you are confident with yourself. Like who gives a fuck?

No they've gone with stupid shit for years and it's going to basically blow back in their face eventually. This "movement" was always basically doomed to fail. Eventually the crazy people who have been encouraged are going to turn on their handlers Frankenstein style. Literally. I can't imagine how many doctors are going to get sued into oblivion in 20 years.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you want to claim it's dangerous for the child, then fucking remove them from the parents of course. If the child fears for their own safety from the parents then the child shouldn't be with them eh? But you let the kid go home with them anyway except with "our little secret that you are actually a boy" um that's retarded.

On the plus side with this one, it's so retarded that these people don't even realize that if these people really are grooming the kid, this would be a stone groove for the person doing it.

You think it's dangerous for this kid you're grooming to be with their parents and you let them stay with the parents, you know full well you're full of shit and there's no danger to the kid at home.

You DO try to get them removed from the parents, the teacher/groomer doing it gets a chance to completely knock the parents out of the picture for good. They can get the kid taken out of their custody, make it so the parents don't even have a chance to get the kid back and are forced away from them under threat of jail...and all you have to do is "this child needs a better house than foster care, I'll happily take control of them as a guardian" and you get to take control of the kid for good, with no hope of the parents being able to fight it. It's a completely legal way to kidnap the kid you're grooming and a way to elope with the object of your screwed up fantasies under your thumb forever, the parents being helpless to stop you.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure but do this and you paint a target on your back for scrutiny.

Plus you'd actually need to produce evidence and argue your position in court.