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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Man, this guy just completely lost his fucking mind at some point and this is what's left.

Also, I dispute your assertation that he looks like a well-used sexdoll. I'd say that's more of a used-up bar hag after a few decades of hard Friday nights, a lifetime's disregard for UV damage, and a three-pack-a-day habit.

[–]Haylstorm 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

When he was normal no one had a problem with it. You wanna wear a dress? Have at it. Bit weird but not a big deal.

You think you're a woman? No. Like cool story but you're still just what you were before, a bloke in a dress.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This is very true. Waaaay back in the late 80s and early 90s, when he was beginning to hit big, he was crossdressing on stage in the UK and no one cared - I suspect because he was funny and we had had the whole gender-bending trend of the 80s with Annie Lennox, Julian Clary and Boy George (and others) and it wasn’t particularly shocking by the time Izzard came around.

Of course, Izzard’s autobiography reveals that around the time he was gaining fame, he was also harassing thirteen year old girls in the Ladies toilets in London (and claiming that they were bullying him).

The interesting thing is that when he started to get work in the US, he put on male clothes and was fine. I ran into him on the street in New York in 2010 and he was dressed like a dude with no make up or anything. He then went on Rogan and talked about how he could switch between “boy mode” and “girl mode”.

He’s essentially a fetishist cross dresser who no longer gets the thrill he used to and now needs to force other people to join in with his fetish and transgender lunacy just happened to come along and he jumped on the bandwagon.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I had quite respected his "they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes" response when questioned on his clothing choices. If a man wants to wear more feminine clothes, go for it. And it's not all that unusual for entertainers. Even a lot of the, still very masculine, "hair band" musicians of the eighties had long hair and wore eye liner.

Then it turned out he was really a fetishist.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then it turned out he was really a fetishist

To be fair, all transvestites are and he called himself alternatively an “executive transvestite” and an “action transvestite”, he never hid that he had an attraction to women’s clothes (probably due to his mother’s death when he was young, according to a TV show he did visiting his boyhood homes), it was never just about pushing fashion boundaries or breaking down barriers in the way that the stylists for bands used it.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess I just knew of transvestites as men who liked to wear women's clothing but I didn't really get that it was a sexual fetish. Which is actually very naive as when I was a kid, the local transvestite went through a phase of wearing a wig and make-up and not much else and jumping out into his garden and wanking whenever kids walked past without an adult. I had no real idea what I was seeing when he did it when I walked past one morning but as an adult it's very creepy considering that kind of behaviour usually escalates.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah it feels like fairly 'standard' escalation for fetishes tbh and it's worrying that he can't rein it in.

He used to have fairly normal opinions on things too but really went off at the deep end around the time he started with this.

Did not know about the girls thing, that's pretty gross.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah that is...not a great look.

I think that was the first time I was overtly intimidated because of my sexuality.

That line stood out to me too. Your sexuality of what? Intimidating teenage girls?

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

He's saying the quiet part loud. Dressing in makeup and women's clothing is a sex thing for him.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that's another thing that annoys me about the activists, they've just created a "wastebasket" category where everyone who's cross-dressed, felt uncomfortable about their body as a teenager, Brazilian bichas (who're unapologetic about adding milk and dropping the eggs, but keeping the sausage), isolated figures from Cree, Navajo, Zapotec, and Thai society, people with dysphoria, people who don't, guy-girl couples at liberal-arts colleges, and whatever Momo ghoul Dylan Mulvaney is are throw together into one category, so every suicide, police murder, partner violence, or just random attack is a "genocide"

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Was he ever 'normal' though? I'm also indifferent to men wearing dresses, but this man is the walking embodiment of the old AGP joke "What's the difference between a cross dresser and a transexual? About 5 years"

Given that this man was harrassing teenage girls in bathrooms at age 23 and painting himself as a victim, I'm forced to doubt that this guy has ever been psychologically normal.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently Suzy is the name of an ex-gf of his who died. Who also happened to be blonde. Serious Hitchcock vibes, here

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Be fair.

If a blowup doll looked like that you'd ask for your money back.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He’s a blow-up doll that’s seen some stuff.

[–]The_Best_Yak_Ever 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

'If they listen to me talking, hopefully they think "well, that's just some person, they seem a decent person".'

BUT THAT’S JUST IT EDWARD!! I already thought you seemed like a decent person when you were a comedian. I had zero issue with your cross dressing. I thought your jokes about transvestite shock troopers were bloody hilarious! I had no problem with you at all! But that’s not what’s happening at large. What I’m seeing is truly disgusting, detestable, slimy, grotesque weirdos doing everything in their power to convince me that they are disgusting, detestable, slimy, grotesque weirdos. Gay rights gained acceptance because we realized that gay people are just regular ass people who it’s usually easy to support (with the exception of the increasing worrisome behavior at pride parades, but even there, I believe those are a gross minority). But because people suffering from gender dysphoria are blessedly rare, they get drowned out by the fat, ugly, gross losers who are so whacked out huffing on digital copium and act like disgusting blobs of rotting excrement, or selfish clowns demanding praise and adoration for being the man who wins a race against women, and throws a manly fucking tantrum when us normal people respond with disgust.

I will not ignore the fact that men and women are not interchangeable no matter what a loud smelly gaggle of chronically online losers shrieks at me. I will never cheer on a man competing in sport against women. I will never respect a person like that. I will never consider a trans identified man for a relationship just because he insists he’s really a hot woman and not a man in a dress. I will not pretend a man can give birth because a woman who wants to be extra special claims she is a man.

Demanding we all play along with a ridiculous fantasy and having the audacity to get angry when we don’t accept their feelings instead of the cold hard reality we can see with our own fucking eyes, is not something “a decent person” expects. That’s something a lunatic would demand. And I don’t take lunatics’ opinions and demands seriously.

So no, Eddie. Trans issues are becoming less popular, not more popular. With every Lia Thomas and Rachel McKinnon… with every slobbering sweat drenched tweet threatening real women with rape, death, and violence by a fat, greasy, porn sick man in an anime dress… with every demand that we substitute reality for the fantasies of losers I would avoid in the grocery store, we get further and further away from acceptance.

And meanwhile, a lot of good LGBT people pay the price for the behavior of the oily adipose heavy social rejects, who barged fatly into their community and crybullied and emotionally abused their way to hogging the mic, making everything exponentially worse for absolutely everybody.

[–]JulienMayfair 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And meanwhile, a lot of good LGBT people pay the price for the behavior of the oily adipose heavy social rejects, who barged fatly into their community and crybullied and emotionally abused their way to hogging the mic, making everything exponentially worse for absolutely everybody.

I just want these clowns to stop acting like they represent me.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We need to understand that LGBTQ people have been there since we were cave people.

They're so desperate to gaslight us into thinking this shit didn't start in the 90s.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Um, eckscuse me, the concept of the transgender person has been around since ancient times (who were really "you are interested in men, or you're not interested in men but you suck at hunting. Go tend crops, raise kids, and get fucked by the warriors/hunters with the rest of the women.") Those trans people were valued for their mystical powers through the tribe (which was really "The animal I killed was eating this in the forest." "Have the gay dude eat some. If it's edible, plant it. If it's poison, we didn't lose anyone of value. If it's narcotic, it's always fun watching him get drunk or high and stumble around for our amusement.")

It's all in history.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, someone needs to write a Wikipedia article about how some tribe used mystical troons to test for poisonous foods and do it so it seems like the troons are heroes. It would be amazing to see that referenced seriously.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, wasn't that basically the role of the shaman in ancient times: Eat things to test for poisonous foods, and combine the narcotic drug rage and the success or failure of it as the spirits speaking to him and giving them the power to choose what's edible?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Suzy Eddie Izzard today took a swipe at Harry Potter author JK Rowling as she warned against wading into online disputes about transgender rights.

The comic and Labour activist cautioned that 'heated' debates can 'get more and more and more extreme' on social media.

But Izzard hailed how 'we've just started getting the hang of' discussing transgender issues even though 'LGBTQ people have been there since we were cave people'.

The 61-year-old has previously spoken about her gender-fluid identity and requests to be referred to with she/her pronouns.

She also recently announced her full name as Suzy Eddie Izzard to 'add in' a name she has wanted to used since childhood.

Speaking to LBC Radio this morning, Izzard said she chose not to read 'negative' comments made about her online and would 'just carry on'.

It came as she was quizzed about why Rowling has become a 'semi-hate figure' for some when it comes to transgender rights.

The author has been a fierce critic of Scotland's recent gender identity reforms and clashed with outgoing First Minister Nicola Sturgeon over the issue.

Rowling has also frequently entered debates over transgender rights on social media, which has regularly sparked a backlash.

But Izzard suggested this was often a way of escalating arguments.

'If you get into the debate and taking sides, people can say certain things to you,' she said.

'And if you react, especially online, if you react to things it can all get more and more and more extreme.

'It's just like a discussion that turns into an argument, which turns into pure anger, which turns into a fight.

'Something like that is sort of happening at the moment. We need to understand that LGBTQ people have been there since we were cave people.

'We've just started getting the hang of it and talking about it and relaxing about it, even though the discussions are heated.

'So I don't want anyone to have a really tough time of it. People were online they were saying negative things about me, but I don't read those I just carry on.'

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So I don't want anyone to have a really tough time of it.

No, he just wants everyone to roll over and let fetishistic men do whatever they want, all the time.