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[–]ihaveyourdress 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Jazz should sue his mom. The mom wanted a girl and when they didn't get one, she made one. The physical and psychological issues she caused are unimaginable.

[–]SerpensInferna 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She has actively and completely destroyed his life. And that is not hyperbole.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Exulansic's series on Jazz is very enlightening.

It's very clear that Jazz's mental and physical health issues happened ~after~ the onset of puberty suppression, and became worse after the physical castration. No one ever talks about the impact of all these hormonal and surgical interventions against his once normal and healthy body (well one black transwoman did once, and got shut down right quick by Jeanette).

Jazz has tried to talk about the trauma of the genital surgeries, and been shut down by Jeannette, because we don't want to scare people away from transitioning.

It's very apparent that Jazz is deeply uncomfortable with everything: his body, his family, his place in society. He is surrounded by people who lie to him, manipulate him and outright bully him for their own agenda. I don't think he knows what he really wants or what his own 'truth' even is, because he's never been given the space or the independence to figure it out. I also think the family is desperately afraid of what will happen when and if he breaks free of their orbit and starts thinking for himself.

It's truly tragic to watch this person constantly suffering and being humiliated on camera. A half decent family would turn off the cameras and get him some real help, but they don't want to, they don't want him to ever get better, and all their livliehoods (at least for Sander and Jeannette) depend on the show.

[–]Haylstorm 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Everything about this makes me angry tbh. It's just exploiting a kid who thought he could get his mothers love through it. Them recording everything just makes me deeply uncomfortable too, even if he was trans it cannot be healthy to have the world see your intimate moments.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, his being trans makes it worse. He's clearly been conditioned to see the world outside his bubble as dangerous. The show has scenes (clearly scripted) where someone walks by and yells a random slur, or his TiM friends get 'phobic' messages on their dating apps. He's made it clear on so many occasions that he doesn't have the emotional energy to be front and center doing 'advocacy' work like his Mommy and brother, yet every intimate detail about his life is on display for the 'haters'. It must feel incredibly vulnerable.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus. I'm aware of Jazz but never watched the show. That sounds like an even more fucked up, nightmare version of The Truman Show. Jazz might know that he's on a tv show but even still it sounds like his entire reality is being carefully crafted around him.

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Genuinely seems like hell to me. He just needs to be left alone, I can't imagine the pressure is great for what is likely already poor mental health either. You HAVE to live up to it or you're letting down trans people everywhere by showing it's not a good route. You HAVE to be happy about it for the same reason.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This probably is going to end very poorly for him. Completely backed into a corner by the weird mother and the groomer cheerleaders. That clip with him trying to talk to his mother and all she kept doing was telling him “he was in his own way”, basically telling him it’s all his own fault he feels this way and he just has to push those thoughts down, it is almost as if the mother knows self-deletion would be a profitable way to end the series and almost certainly ensure that she stays in the limelight.

[–]Haylstorm 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Poor guy must feel like he has no choice at this point. There's no going back. My heart breaks a bit for him that this was allowed and on top of that allowed to be broadcast in a way that feels like he's a prop to his mother and that he can't disagree or he lets every trans person ever down...

[–]ClassroomPast6178 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

he lets every trans person ever down...

It’s very cult-like. You have them telling vulnerable children to disconnect from their families, that they’re their new “sparkle” family (even troons like Buck Angel, whilst claiming to be rational, does the whole “tranpa” schtick), that only the in-group will understand, the love-bombing, the threats of suicide/self-harm, that anyone that offers a counter-narrative is a hater and ‘phone, that detransitioners weren’t really trans to begin with and anyway they’re really really rare.

There’s a PhD thesis somewhere in this shit when it all comes crashing down and the world finally wakes up to how insane it all is.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It just worries me. How many more Jazz's are there that feel like the trans community is the only place they belong? How many won't speak out or detransition because they don't want to lose the only people that are left after having cut off everyone else?

Jazz's being public will be good for a case study but it's horrific as an ongoing thing. Good for the court too if it ever goes anywhere I suppose...

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lots but often through self-suggestion.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

telling vulnerable children to disconnect from their families, that they’re their new “sparkle” family

Scientology does the same thing.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most cults do.

It's almost certain that a cult will attempt to replace the social circle of whomever is entering. Done through a variety of ways, dietary rules, alcohol prohibitions, declaring some inconsequential but regular part of life to be immoral. Partly because the cult has to compete for the attention of it's adherent, but also because cutting the person off from all other social circles means that the cult can then exploit them more. It all comes down to money. And how much they can collect.

In this case we see a child essentially tortured and abused on television for the entertainment of the masses and the profits of the network. It's like a modern colosseum where we go pay to watch people get maimed.

The colosseum was more morally defensible though as slaves fighting each other in deadly combat was a far more honorable activity than torturing children.

[–]JulienMayfair 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

. . . and we all saw this coming.

[–]Haylstorm 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This one actually just makes me really sad tbh. Poor kid was basically coerced into it to try and get his mum's love.

[–]JulienMayfair 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Me, too. I think the mother admitted on one episode that she really wanted a daughter. And the total lack of boundaries was disturbing.

[–]Haylstorm 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I think that's why it saddens me. Normal parents just move on and love the kid anyway. She seems to push this on him as the only way he'll be loved by her and it's distressing to see.

If i'm honest the impression I get with her is that she loves the attention more than her kid. It's creepy. It feels like if he's not trans she'd drop him.

[–]JulienMayfair 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have to give credit to the women on the old Gender Critical subreddit for being some of the first to point out how the mother raised red flags for them.

[–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

she literally drives across state boundaries to nag her kids on the show, it's quite frightening

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That part is normal mother behaviour though.

[–]clownworlddropout 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

So at two your child was asking about the gender fairy waving xir magic wand and cutting off his penis with it, and we're supposed to do what with this information? Your two year old said random stupid shit, there's no meaning to it!

[–]Haylstorm 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I wanted to be a train at two. My cousin wanted to be a catdog. When they're that age you just nod along and go yes dear that's nice and move on. Tomorrow they'll want to be something else anyway.

[–]LyingSpirit472 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

You mean you're a stunning and brave train and your cousin's a stunning and brave catdog Therian, Hitler! Satan! Rowling!

[–]Haylstorm 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Choo Choo motherfuckers

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Walrus book pointed that out.

[–]Athelhilda4 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If your two year old says that you should probably take them to a psychologist or a doctor, because that could be a sign of molestation.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

True but you gotta ask why.

Often kids will have some dumb reason like. "I wanna be an explorer like Dora the Explorer and she's a girl therefore explorers are girls" or some shit that isn't a dark reason at all.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Didn't the kid in Texas who's dad was trying to get custody get transed just because he liked singing along to Frozen.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably. In those cases though it's usually because the parent wants to get back at their ex through the kid.

It's pretty horrifying when parents use the kids as pawns in the divorce but this sort of thing is truly evil.

[–]xoenix 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Probably the last time they'll let something like this slip through in the editing.

[–]BenitoGreen99 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those parents should've been arrested a long time ago. They destroyed that poor kid's life. Imagine making a life changing decision before you even know what life is about. Before you've gone through puppy love, had your first sexual experience, your first date, first girl/boyfriend. Yes Jazz is now an adult. But hormone abuse began at 11. That is a very confusing time for children because their bodies are changing. I can remember the range of emotions and confusion I felt at that age. It simply enrages me that children are being used as lab rats, mutilated, all so your parents can get online cloud and woke points, and big pharma and the medical industrial complex can make billions. I pray for the day when there is a federal law that prohibits mutilating children and holding everyone involved accountable. I also pray for Jazz's mental health. Because what's been done cannot be undone.

[–]catfishrising 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

A trans child is like a vegetarian cat: you know it was someone else's idea.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

All these groomer parents and the entire for-profit troon industry should be hung.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

hung

Something Jazz never had the opportunity to be.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Very, very naughty…go and sit on the step and think about what you’ve done.

[–]Newzok 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Only a matter of time. Poor lad.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

He can get a fake one like FtM's do for a $100,000

[–]Newzok 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well he's got so much scar tissue down there now that I doubt it

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That has to be replaced every 10 years.

The body rejects the plastic tube and it literally starts working it's way out of the body through the skin.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a lifetime cash cow for the medical and pharmaceutical industries.

[–]William_World 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

why does a strap on need to cost 100k

[–]jw329 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The root of the problem is TLC. Find out where the finances are coming from and you will find out all the trans shows and tlc are funded by globalists to push the trans kids agenda. We need to cut the funding and expose the globalists then we can save the kids.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Sounds like someone is on his way to becoming a statistic.

[–]notafed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suspect the same thing. Extremely disheartening and enraging what his mother did to him.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not sure this exactly supports everyone's take on things. Not being able to get out of one's own head and wanting to shut up your own brain is a common issue among addicts. It's why they become addicts.

Maybe instead of booze or heroin or meth, they found cross hormone treatments they hoped would fix them.

Now it's food, and I could have sworn I heard wine mentioned.

Obviously the parents shouldn't have turned their kid into a eunuch, but I suspect there's more to it than simple regret.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Personally I just told my own brain to STFU when I was around 14 and it did what it was told.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not the first time I've heard that working for someone. Must be nice. I drank mine into submission. There were some unruly brain cells that had to die. Everything is better without them.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The kid had these mutiliating surgeries pushed on him by a smothering mother.

[–]Godknight 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She's not the first and won't be the last.

This ideology must be eradicated.

[–]IX-Hispana 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully he'll break free from the programming, if only for his own well being. Not sure how influential this one is considering youths don't watch TV anymore.