Being born in the wrong body is the most question begging question that came out of the Trans movement.

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[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We are our bodies, of course, so there is no wrong or right about it. Saying otherwise is just their attempt at legitimizing their desire to mimic the opposite sex. You see this sentiment paired with the "trans brain" myth often, which is of course also malarkey, if there's anything different in their brains it's because they're gay, not trans, because "trans" doesn't exist. "Trans" is something someone does not what someone is.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

We are our bodies

BULLSHIT. That's what the biggest conspiracy known to us wants you to believe. It defies all logic and can only be believed by blind faith in whatever told you it. Don't pull the "science" card; science is only observation of the material world, it does not and is not even able to study non-material matters, so it can say neither yay nor nay. Scientists tend to be atheists because they're rebelling against religion which tends to be hostile to science for some reason, not because science led them to that conclusion. In fact by the scientific method it is ridiculous to think that. Science fundamentally recognizes that everything is cause and effect, so...what was the cause? More likely that this is some nightmare and it's all in your head.

[–]clownworlddropout 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok, so let's think about this a bit. You believe we are some sort of disembodied consciousness of some sort? What part of who you are is this "alien" thing? Why are our emotions and instincts geared towards earthly needs and pursuits if our mind is supposed to be from outside our body? What about brain injuries? Destroying a part of the brain destroys an aspect of a person's mind. We have a map of these different locations and the functions they carry out! The mind is a manifestation of our biology, everything points to that reality, so why bring in a totally unnecessary outside agent to explain it?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We get into talks of the supernatural we can no longer use science or even logic to really come to any conclusive positions.

The idea that the soul and body are separate is a very Christian idea. I'd even argue there's some practical benefit towards thinking about your thoughts wills and desires as something that is not entirely driven by your physical wants and needs, as after all you can simply decide to ignore your physical urgings although it's not always advised.

This still doesn't really explain the "gendered souls" argument though. Since it sounds pretty retarded to think that something immaterial, sacred, and "perfect" would be limited by any semblance of physical sex especially when religion sees sex as some vulgar concept that should be hidden and repressed.

The christians that believe in the trans ideology really confused me. So you think god has a pile of male and female souls and he accidentally mixed them up? That's fucking retarded. God doesn't make mistakes right? But sometimes he does? Well how do you know that it wasn't a mistake to make you? At this point in the conversation they usually get really angry and I don't get a clear answer. Unfortunate.