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[–]SerpensInferna 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I have a thought. One cannot maintain the increasingly unnatural demands of liberalism and maintain sanity.

Liberalism demands the setting aside of one's own safety, common sense, and inherit tribalism of humanity. The cognitive dissonance cannot be managed long-term. Additionally, the slippery slope of liberalism, without balance, leads to the normalization of degeneracy.

Realistically, women are compassionate and empathic, as this is extremely useful in ensuring their children survive to adulthood. Helping the "downtrodden" appeals to this innate sense, which is why the browbeating of 'facts and logic' rightwingers attempt to use to convince them they are wrong rarely works.

Women, and especially young inexperienced women, are not in a good place right now. The left tells them it is wrong to want children, a faithful partner, a secure home life, to care about their own safety, and that making themselves public sexual property is the the healthy thing to do. The right tells them it is wrong to want to be an autonomous human being as a female, and from observation, often serve as metaphorical punching bags to rightwing men (and leftwing men, who apparently feel much safer beating up on chicks in general, who would have thought).

I don't know what the answer is, but I can't help but feel the right is missing a crucial component by overlooking how different women are in general. It might be advantageous to appeal to women's sense that people are being hurt in real time by left wing ideology to peel them away from it. So many women are politically homeless right now.

[–]LyingSpirit472 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't know what the answer is, but I can't help but feel the right is missing a crucial component by overlooking how different women are in general. It might be advantageous to appeal to women's sense that people are being hurt in real time by left wing ideology to peel them away from it. So many women are politically homeless right now.

But the difference is, the way the right wing has given itself to Trump-style politics does help on that aspect, because Trump won his election by running as if he was in an eighth-grade class president election where it's all a popularity contest, not about any issues to speak of. This speaks more to a generation of people- both men and women- who are still stuck in high school and act as such [which also ties to what the downtrodden issues are; it's not "work for the downtrodden", but "work for the downtrodden...as long as they're cool or by working for them, YOU look cool."]

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Aren't pretty much all elections like this though? I mean it's pretty much a given that the presidential election will at best give lip service to the issues in the most bland and non-committal way possible.

Only real difference with trump was like.

Obama Style: Immigration is a complex issue but we are taking ReAl steps to help AmErIcAnS and ensure that the American dream stays alive.

Me: what the fuck does that mean? What steps? What dream? Can we talk about something that isn't fucking stupid like visa requirements and illegal entry enforcement?

Trump: Screw those guys! We need to build a wall!

Me: Well saying "build the damn wall already" is better than giving absolutely zero policy positions. Though it does beg the questions. Why build the wall? With what? Also can we please talk about visa requirements and illegal entry enforcement and prosecution instead of this grandstanding bullshit?

You just choose whether you want the swave "Galactic Federation of Planets style" Picard diplomacy or the "Set phasers to kill" style of Kirk diplomacy but fuck neither actually means anything in real life. It's all advertising.

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, it's slightly different than a popularity contest, though Trump succeeding by being the first famous person has helped change things to popularity contest (the worse nadir than even Trump was all the people who demanded Dwayne Johnson run for President, without even realizing he's said in the past he is a Republican, which flat out said people only care as a popularity contest. [That had an extra benefit of "woke racism" because it was "well, he's a rich, famous, black/Samoan man, OF COURSE he'd be a Democrat" as well]. Shit, the popularity contest is so bad that even as Kanye West became a Nazi, he was still getting requests to run for President...and even after it's known he is, he'd probably get the nomination if he won just on popularity.

As far as the issues, it'll never happen because the people view politics as their sports team and don't care about the issues, it's THEIR TEAM so it doesn't matter.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Vote blue no matter who! Rah rah rah! Let's go Brandon! Hit a grand slam touchdown!

[–]YJaewedwqewq 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But the difference is, the way the right wing has given itself to Trump-style politics does help on that aspect

If you think Trump or any other popular hooligan is truly right wing in any significant capacity, then you're sorely mistaken I'm afraid.

Trump was in office for 4 years and did jack shit about anything, much less about the destruction of culture and sliding down the path we're currently on where children learn about gay sex in kindergarten. A couple Republican governors have endorsed or enacted token legislation that will do nothing and/or get repealed in short order, but that's about it. This is all not to mention Republicans embracing "diversity" a la "gays for Trump" and "Republic drag queens" and the like.

Trump and his ilk are not the future of right-wing ideology, they're the epitome of why neoconservatism is AIDS that won't hinder but in fact actively assists leftist efforts to demolish society.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're acting like a leftist with this kind of thinking. "The government should force everyone to conform to my ideal of culture, and nothing else matters!"

[–]YJaewedwqewq 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're right, we should continue letting trannies rape kids because muh freedom and sheeit, what insight

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's...not what freedom is

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The right tells them it is wrong to want to be an autonomous human being as a female

Why are they doing this suddenly? Just 3 years ago this was a fringe worldview and not aligned with any particular part of the spectrum. Now it's the majority view for the right and they're obsessed with it. And this is only one of many extremely concerning shifts around the same time. What the hell is going on?