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[–]bopomofodojo 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Holy victim complex.

Literally, first meeting when talking about kidney failure: "Hey, doc, I have a uterus and was born female. Make sure you take that into account."

But instead just sat waiting for a year waiting for what, someone to telepathically determine the uterus was there and that they should magically account for this despite the blatant lie on all the medical records?

Your fault, "dude". Your fault. Not anyone else's. Your pride and vanity got in the way of getting a proper diagnosis, a very mannish thing to do, so at least you have that going for you.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, I'd say assuming that everyone can read your mind then getting pissy when people don't guess right at the thing you didn't tell them about but expected anyway is a very stereotypically feminine behavior.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Almost as if trans men think like women or something.

[–]Haylstorm 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Rule 1 of any sort of medical care is tell your doctor everything. Even for something as simple as antibiotics my doc knows i'm on birth control because some medication can interfere with it.

The doctor doesn't give a shit if you're regularly taking heroin but they do need to know you are to adjust things.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The entire article is basically “Transmen are lying to their doctors, but medicine needs to change to accommodate that rather than asking transmen to tell the truth.”

Waaahh, I’m a victim!

[–]Haylstorm 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Someone needs to smack some accountability into these fools. I was always taught to tell the doctor anything important and they don't disclose something waaaaaaay more important than anything I have to disclose? Morons.

[–]PerpetuallyLethargic 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

But providing information is scary, and my doctor will probably take out a chainsaw and kill me because they're all so transphobic. So I only disclose such relevant information on my Tumblr feed, where it's safe to do so.

[–]Femaleisnthateful[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Later, he listened in amazement as a doctor gravely informed him that he had a uterus – a fact that Whitley was, naturally, already aware of. “They said, ‘I think we understand the problem – you have a uterus and so that may be contributing to your kidney failure.’ I was like, ‘what are you talking about?’”

So this women goes to the doctor with organ failure, doesn't tell them that she's female, forcing them to waste time and resources and make improper calculations, and it's the doctors' fault and she's the victim.

Also, thanks BBC for acknowledging that 'trans medicine' is a shot in the dark and no one understands what they're doing, but yet we can't say that out loud.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'd just put it in the same category as the sex workers getting murdered and conflating that with the trans issue.

Trans people might be more likely to omit important information from their doctors forms or fraudulently fill out the forms, (because I can't imagine why anyone else would ever do this) but the then shitty quality of care they'd get from that idiotic decision is directly related to not filling out the forms properly or disclosing to the doctors vital information.

It's like the murder rate argument. Yes the murder rate for trans people is higher. But when you look at the details of those cases, they're by and large related to sex work, which is already quite a dangerous profession, couple that with the, shall we call it the disclosure issue. The doctor won't shoot you if he finds a surprise during the examination. That's the main difference.

[–]Femaleisnthateful[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is the murder rate for trans people actually higher tho?

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Compared to gen pop I'm pretty sure it is. But I think it's more a case of the murder rate being higher for sex workers and trans people being more likely to be sex workers.

If you were to adjust the statistics for that you'd likely see far less of a difference

[–]Ethereal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No way to really know since estimates of trans population varies wildly study to study.

[–]UncleWillard56 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They only exist because of modern medicine. Without modern medicine (which, imo, is doing the most harm by pushing this dangerous subculture), you'd just be a dude in a dress.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I strongly suspect this article is being incredibly selective in it's narrative to the point of utter dishonesty. Because while transmen "pass" better than transwomen as it's easier to cover female features with male features than vice versa. So the change in facial fat, caused by testosterone over female facial bone structure, coupled with a beard and receding hairline. And broader shoulders if she works out a lot while on T, along with breast removal, will give an upper body that looks more male under clothes. But that's just in photographs. Careful photographs at that. If you look at the photo of this woman it's taken at an odd high angle, most likely because a in a straight on photograph it would be pretty obvious that the shape of her lower body is clearly female. The fact is that when it comes to transness, the hips don't lie.

So in real life, when she is not in a carefully angled photograph, when she is walking and talking, nobody will be taken in for too long. Any t-men I've ever seen, even on television, where they are again, shot to look most manly, at best come across as incredibly uncanny valley. Initially you maybe think they could be an incredibly feminine, probably gay, man. But even then, it becomes increasingly obvious that something is off. There is just no way that it's possible that medical professional after medical professional, didn't, at a bare minimum, suspect that this person was female.

What has most likely happened is that they knew she was a woman but were actually worried about the consequences of outright asking if she was a woman. They probably repeatedly asked leading questions to get her to admit to her biology, which she repeatedly refused to answer honestly. Are we actually supposed to believe that no medical professional asked her what medication she was currently on? That's a totally standard question for nearly all medical issues. She didn't just fail to disclose her status, she very obviously lied repeatedly. And the culture of fear that exists in so many professions around transness, meant everyone went along with her through fear.

And why did she lie? Just through the vanity of wanting everyone to act as if she was really a man. Nope, that was probably part of it. But even a quick google will show you that excess testosterone is linked to chronic kidney disease. There hasn't been any study that specifically tracks how taking excess testosterone affects women, because we all know this type of study isn't done. But any doctor who is told that a patient with kidney issues is taking testosterone would almost certainly tell them to stop. And that's what this woman didn't want.

[–]Femaleisnthateful[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah I was confused why the transman thought her doctor was lying about the connection between testosterone use and her kidney failure. Cognitive dissonance and fantasizing I imagine.

And yah I always thought Scott Newgent and Buck Angel passed really convincingly until I saw full body video of them.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I suspect that there's a pretty good chance that she'll poison the kidney her friend gave her too.

[–]Femaleisnthateful[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would assume it came pre-poisoned