Arkansas: passes a bill that makes drag shows adult-only (rightfully so) TRAs: THEY LITERALLY WANT TO ERASE TRANS PEOPLE

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[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

This is venturing into censorship territory. You guys are starting to go full circle and it's really scaring me, because now the only people who aren't rooting for a totalitarian state are a few libertarians who you think are all nuts.

This is a parent's responsibility, not the government's.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think that if a few fringe members of the community hadn't gone way, way overboard with "Drag Queen Story Hour" and if we weren't seeing this frantic rush to trans kids, this would never have happened. The extremes are pushing other extremes. Having said that, I agree that drag shows are very... adult. They're obscene, contain enactments of sex acts, raunchy jokes, etc. They're not meant for kids.

This may lead to gay bars who host these shows being limited to 18+ admission. No minor teens, no kids, show your ID at the door.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

But aren't sexual performances already not for kids? We don't need a law for drag shows specifically. I feel like the real motive here is to outright ban things like crossdressing, and they're only using this as an excuse.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, they're not supposed to be. Problem is, now you have drag queen story hour, kids being taken on field trips to gay bars, and adult sexuality being taught to kids at younger and younger ages. This is all concerning, and tends to point back to the LGBTQ community, even though plenty of LGB people are not on board with this.

I don't think this will impact cross dressing. This is basically about performances, specifically raunchy stage performances where men in drag sing and perform in an explicit or obscene manner. This is not about a man wearing a dress in public as he shops for groceries, gets his car fixed at the shop, and pays his water bill.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It pretty much is. As far as I know anything involving crossdressing is technically drag, so that goes far beyond sexual performances. Clearly sexual performances in front of kids are the reason for the law, but I think the politicians who write bills like this know that the terms are a lot broader than what's supposedly being targeted, and they're taking advantage of it. If grooming kids is already illegal then this law is redundant otherwise. They just want to ban all crossdressing because they don't like it. Actually I don't even know if they don't like it, part of me thinks they're only doing this to get back at their opponents.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is not about a man wearing a dress in public as he shops for groceries, gets his car fixed at the shop, and pays his water bill.

But that's the whole point with how extreme the law is towards "performance." Performance has already been said that it considers, for example, "a professional wrestler who happens to be transgender performing in a match counts as a performance." If the law also says "a man wearing a dress in public doing karaoke counts as a drag performance". then it absolutely can and will be used to get the man wearing a dress in public for those: The man hears his favorite song while he's at the shop and hums along with it? Counts as singing, counts as a performance. He's shopping for groceries and is walking with his arms swinging a little bit? Counts as dancing, counts as a performance.