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[–]alladd 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"This plays into the transfeminine predator stereotype. It's very much a debunkable thing," said Trianon.

Debunk it then.

Seeing gays and lesbians stump for male sexual predators has officially become hilarious. It was sad at first but the vitriol with which they stand by these creeps as they continue to undermine their sexual agency and identity just so they can claim moral superiority is too good not to laugh at.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

why is so much of this overwrought activism about defending the most annoying stereotypes of the group? like, with women's activism it's only the obvious frauds that turn into media circuses (Duke lacrosse, Mattress Girl, the 30 newsmagazines doubling down on Amber Heard after the unanimous verdict); and remember that Smithsonian infographic saying you couldn't expect Black people to shower, show up for work, or talk "proper" English? the "groomer" slam spent about 2 months on Twitter before the DeSantis faction picked it up and RAN

previous generations of gay men and lesbians had their James Charles or Political Rad Les types, but they were never allowed to punish everyone else in the community; but since ~2012 the LGBs of younger generations were shuffled off as "not marginalized enough" or "straight-passing" by the hivemind of 17-21-year-old fangirls that got in charge

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because the media benefits from finding the loudest clowns in the circus, and those clowns all lack the shame mechanism that prevents most normal people from pulling a Joker and leaning into their own publicized mockery. Putting a spotlight on anyone turns them insane, especially habitual narcissists who were already convinced they're the main character in their own little horrifying story. All they really want is to be the center of attention, so they're going to do anything to stay there, and the news is too happy to film it.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Frankly.

I don't think most people in the LGBTQIAHULU+ camp are gay. Or if they are gay, they are gay in the sense that they are stupid, not homosexual.

I think basically ever since it became cool to be gay then the mean girl types all identified as GINOs, or QINO if you will. Gay in name only. Especially once we lump non-binary into the mix.

It's like a fashion statement. Which if that was the be all end all of it that would be fine.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

again, "queer" has taken off while the actual rates of "are you horny for the same sex?" and "is your current configuration of sex psychically painful?" remain pretty level, even accounting for the endless "yes-but" quibbling or induced dysphoria etc.

it reminds me of the 70s when the movement was "you're either bi--or you're in denial!" so that gave an escape valve to men and women who didn't want the 2.1-kids-by-21/martini-lunch-and-dinner-and-dessert-dead-by-70 lives stereotypical of their parents (or really a generation earlier); and on the other side of the aisle that meant the stinkeye from gays/lesbians at the man and woman trying to get comfortable in the bar/social space

so people attracted to both sexes always existed (as the more militant will be quick to remind you), but the category "bi" had to be named, created, contested; same story for "workplace harassment"--they had to coin a new term for "the boss has certain non-negotiable EXPECTATIONS for your 'secretarial duties' "

I think a lot of this started with "ally hate" 2012-14: sure there's gonna be glory hogs and "I am trying to help you!" cringery, but the effect was that "if you're white/cis you're automatically suspect and definitely cut out from any decisions": so 1. students scrambled for any way to flee the stigma of supposedly not being stigmatized by society (majority, "privilege," whatever you call it) and 2. students also scrambled for a leg up over the rest--"I'm not an icky straight, I'm hemidemisexual who just happens to be dating a nonbinary assigned female at birth!"

it also had the advantage of not requiring real politics--you had people getting beat over the Wi Spa disaster, but no protests against US support for the Saudi or Honduran regimes actually having dirty cops murder trans women

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I've always just kinda laughed at a lot of the activists here. Gays can get a bad rap in some places in the west still but their cries of oppression make me think they don't really understand that in perhaps half the world still being gay can literally be a death sentence.

I've never been much of an "ally" don't really see any good reasons why gay marriage shouldn't be legal, but at the same time it effects my life absolutely zero if it's not and there are far more pressing political concerns I have. Some of the activist types get mad at that but frankly, while I will perfectly accept the fact that for gay people the issue is more important to them, what good does marriage do you if you can't afford rent anyway?