If discrimination alone is enough to cause trans people to commit suicide, how come we don't see other minority groups(who've faced a lot worse)have higher suicide rates?

submitted by jacques1102 from self.TumblrInAction

With other groups like blacks,women,jews,and gays,etc you'd think that these groups would also have the same suicide rates that trans people have.When george floyd died and BLM was rioting,how come we haven't herd of black people committing suicide left and right?In fact, i even found this study that shows whites and Native americans have higher rates than black people. https://sprc.org/scope/racial-ethnic-disparities I even herd of a story that when donald trump was elected there were trans people committing suicide because you know he's the second coming of hitler.You'd think mexicans or hispanics in general would be having those thoughts because of their illegal status but no.If something as simple as misgendering or not dating a trans person is enough to make one suicidal than it goes to show this is still a mental illness that needs proper treatment and not affirming their delusions.

all 21 comments
sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The thing about these suicides is that they're being waved around by two kinds of people. The first group, and the ones who typically follow through with the claim, were going to do it regardless at some point. Transitioning was just a last-ditch attempt at finding some kind of cheat code to make their lives (in their minds) not suck anymore.

The second group are the narcissistic attention seekers who know what kind of mental damage a suicide can do to the people who have to clean it up after, and they weaponize it in an effort to browbeat those people into submitting to their demands. That lot are nothing more or less than emotional terrorists, and should be treated accordingly.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Most people who transition (particularly the younger population) have a number of comorbid health conditions. My friend once attended rehab with an HSTS who had a history of drug addiction and an abusive childhood. It was blatantly obvious to her that this man was seeking to escape his former self, and it wasn't working. He just kept cycling in and out of these programs. Of course, none of the clinicians will tell him what he needs to hear.

Mentally ill people aren't getting the help they really need because they're being told transition will fix their problems. It won't, and when it doesn't, they're lost and hopeless.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They don't except themselves as they are and they feel very depressed because of it. It is quite sad. And I get really angry when accused of wanting trans people to kill themselves because that's the exact opposite of how it feel.

I think they are suffering from the idea that they are something they are not and that they must try to achieve the impossible. They'll fail. And feel bad. And ultimately be at risk of suicide.

I just want them to accept that they don't need to change themselves to be happy. It's alright to be gay, or to not be interested in what is typical for your sex. You just have to accept the material reality of life. Accept the fact that you are yourself, and then you'll be able to find happiness, or at least as much happiness as anyone can.

Like you get all these "trans lesbians" and shit now and it's like, you do know that there are plenty of girls that are perfectly happy with more "feminine" men. Plenty aren't but who cares? Be yourself. Follow your own interests. Just don't bother other people or be a cunt. You'll find someone that loves you for you, and then you'll not need to change yourself.

These trans people that don't realize that they don't need to actually change anything about themselves or even be "trans" because the concept itself is nonsense are just locked into a self destructive spiral.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't help that well-funded 'advocacy' groups are committed to pushing the narrative of suicide as a foregone conclusion. The entire 'Inclusion and Diversity' industry is built around the notion that certain communities are vulnerable and prone to harm. They needs victims to perpetuate themselves.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The material reality of life literally only exists for torture.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It can help for those who are lucky. But this is only if the problem is body misalignment, not people who think it's a social identity, which is almost all "trans" people at this point.

[–]clownworlddropout 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"Dysphoria" is self-loathing and we're telling them that they're right, they should hate themselves, and they need to change their sex to get "better." Which of course is impossible, we are our bodies and our bodies are sexed, so eventually the house of cards must fall... and when it does they off themselves.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's not self-loathing. At least it shouldn't be. But it may look like it because of the new influx of people who think gender is a social construct and even an identity.

You absolutely not your body though. That doesn't even make logical sense. You're falling for matrix deceptions. But it doesn't matter in this case, because gender identity isn't real, so any gender dysphoria stems from the flesh just like any other disability.

[–]jet199 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

If anything it's the other way round. White men have the highest suicide rate.

The troons who kill themselves are also mostly middle aged white men.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder why...

It couldn't possibly be because men are treated like garbage because our instincts see them as disposable. Their own bodies even treat them as worthless. No, women are always the victims no matter what, and men are privileged even when they're not.

[–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Minority groups have it bad? Whites are the most discriminated against, what are you even talking about?

[–]jacques1102[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm talking about what the media claims.When george floyd died and the media claims how the police discriminate against black people and how they have it bad,yet you don't hear black people committing suicide left and right.Likewise discriminating alone can't be the only reason that trans people have a high suicide rate.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Your argument doesn't make sense. Blacks aren't being discriminated against so why would they commit suicide because of something that doesn't happen?

[–]jacques1102[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So do blacks not believe they're targeted by police despite the msm and blm claiming police are after them?For arguments sake even back then black people have had to tolerate everything from slavery to cross burnings to school bombings to different water fountains.You'd think they might have suicided themselves out of existence, but here they are.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If the left hadn't fallen for their own propaganda, the media would be encouraging black people to kill themselves. Because the original plan was to trap black people into relying on the government to keep them powerless and poor, through handouts and welfare, and telling them they can never succeed because society is too racist. Ever wonder why all those old Democrats suddenly went from being racists to being black "advocates"?

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the George Floyd thing made people actually racist against black people.

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

With other groups like blacks,women,jews,and gays,etc

The oppressed Jewish community has the most in common with the oppressed trans community.

People should investigate this.

[–]JasonCarswellSisyphus / Ouroboros 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/s/Victimhood

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Comrade if you question this, persons of the trans will surely kill themselves! Don't question things like this comrade, please!

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When they have a smart device in their hands and they can see nicer bodies, smarter people, bigger dicks or bigger tits all over the internet they tend to off themselves.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because that's not the real reason. The fact is they're cursed with a painful disease, and often there isn't much that can be done to help them.