TRANSGENDERMcGrooming - Scottish Primary School asks under-12s whether they’re gay or transgender.

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[–]wylanderuk 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Hell they just recently swapped from giving feminists a reach around to trans bullshit.

The SNP folks never met a supposed victim group they don't support...I really wish they would get a electoral kicking sometime soon, but it might happen due to the current NHS fuck ups.

Unfortunately both major parties have at different times really stepped on their dick up here, although labour seem to recovering better than the tories unfortunately...As they are elbow deep in pro trans shite as well.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The anti-bullying movement swung around from the emotionally immature kids that were bullied getting control of shit and enforcing niceness. Not merely ending the kind of physical abuse and overt bullying we see in schools, which shouldn't be tolerated when it's caught, but going so far that any behavior that makes someone feel uncomfortable, any criticism, any mockery, is bullying. And it's retarded because you can't force two people to like each other. You can't keep the socially awkward and annoying people from being mocked, all you do is ensure they aren't mocked openly meaning they never correct their problematic behavior.

The annoying bossy wanker that always wants things his way and won't share his toys won't make friends in school and will cry and be lonely and miserable and unlearn their bitchy behavior. But if some over sensitive adult steps in and interferes with that process and forces the other kids to be nice and play with the annoying cunt, that makes the kids dispise them more, and the cunt doesn't learn that they are a cunt, and they persist with their bullshit into adulthood until the end up pissing off the wrong person and getting their face planted in the pavement. Which again is bad, but it's like, your immune system per say, getting sick is bad, but if you're never sick you're weak as fuck and the lamest pussy ass diseases will kill you.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's close to the truth, except it's not the emotionally immature kids who were bullied getting control of shit and enforcing niceness.

In actuality, it's the catty mean girls who WERE the bullies who took control of shit, and continued their mean girl bullying...but this time, they're cloaking it in enforcing niceness and positioning themselves as the heroines who are just trying to stop bullying, while positioning the targets of their bullying as the REAL bullies...which, of course, makes them bigger heroes for bullying the bullies. It is much more obvious since all the signs of "mean girl" bullying: Overt mockery, ostracism, etc., are the same things the people in power to try and stop it are doing right now in this name, as well as the same acceptable targets now that those mean girls were targetting beforehand. Throw in that bullying for women is done differently than bullying for men (so you'll never have that unmistakeable physical violence that everyone recognizes as stereotypical bullying; you'll just have a shitload of emotional violence), and it becomes clear that this is the way.

It just shows the reason the left's "tolerance paradox" falls apart:If you do not tolerate Nazis, for example, then Nazis will not just fall in line and tolerate Jewish people if you tolerate the intolerant. Rather, the Nazi will simply say Jewish people are inherently intolerant, and thus if we want a tolerant society that intolerates intolerance, it is our moral imperative to not tolerate them.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well I think the catty mean girls are definitely there, but I think that catty mean girls are emotionally immature children so.

Oh damn was that a catty mean girl thing to say. Am I a catty mean girl now?

Guess I'm trans. Give me my privilege bigot!

Seriously though I think you've got a lot of "nerd rage" of sort going on. Nerdy bullied girls eventually turn into the catty mean girls if they get power. And sometimes I don't even think they are aware of their meanness they've convinced themselves they're always right. Cluster B personality shit.

The paradox of tolerance isn't really a paradox we just have to set clear boundaries as to what is and is not acceptable behavior. But it's a double edged sword. We can and should tolerate Nazis, in the sense that we must awknoledge that they exist, and that even Nazis are humans and subject to the same basic human rights as everyone else, including but not limited to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. That doesn't mean we need to actually tolerate Nazi opinions. We can and should ridicule and criticize them.

We also need to as a society understand the idea of being provocative for attention. Many so called Nazis aren't Nazis because they are Nazis, they are Nazis because they like to piss people off. They are exhibitionists of a sort. Like troons honestly. Some asshole waving a swastika screaming about exterminating the Jews in the public square. Nothing, and I do mean nothing is a more powerful take down of that message than everyone walking past and giving zero shits about the crazy person. That is a powerful message. Nobody cares. I guess that's another mean girl ism. But it's true.

I always used to discourage the dumbasses at college from engaging with the Nazi guy or the anti-gay god guy using the power strip as a visual aid for why gay sex doesn't work (two plugs won't fit!) Which was admittedly hilarious. But the guy is a transgressive attention seeker trying to bait out the dumbasses that feel a need to virtue signal. That guy does that every day, you aren't going to think of anything that will change his mind. He doesn't care about looking stupid, he's just going to make you look stupid, and make you angry. Why bother. If literally no one took the bait, that guy would leave and go somewhere. Else.

Of course that would usually get me painted as an apologist which was funny, sure alright I'm happy to come and watch you argue with the crazy person. It's a good laugh at your expense.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On the first part, I agree that the "the dream of the slave isn't freedom, it's to have a slave of his own" aspect that leads the bullied, downtrodden masses to want nothing more to be the bully for once and give revenge to people- but that makes it a tapestry. The bullied who are out for vengeance and the bullies who cloak themselves in claiming to be the heroes and their bullying targets the REAL villains both show up en masse for this. I might defer to the second (people who know how to be popular and take power are usually better at taking power than people who aren't as skilled at finding ways to get power), but they do both exist there.

As far as the second, while you're right there, it's still the same message. The intolerant won't go away from people intolerating them, they just say the people THEY don't tolerate are the real intolerant ones, and thus to be truly tolerant, you have to intolerate them. It's the same as you remarked: the one problem with villians that most don't realize is that no one believes they're the villain, and everyone, no matter how cartoonishly evil they are, truly believe they're the hero.