"Five Geek Social Fallacies" An interesting look at social relations amongst human outcasts. I think perhaps a driving force behind the Tumblr effect.

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[–]Datachost 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not all exclusion is bad.

Sometimes it's necessary to exclude to include. Take women's sports for example, a category that exists to keep out male advantage. If you start letting in people with those advantages it's going to discourage women from competing. In this case excluding a few edge cases leads to a greater overall inclusion. And including all will lead to self imposed exclusion.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Another example is gay bars. The purpose of gay bars is so that homosexuals can meet each other, in a place where you can assume that the person you like is also gay or bi. Sure, most straight men don’t have an issue with gay men, and some of them would even be flattered (I presume). But it is awkward, and after so many times it gets tiring. But when most of the people at a gay bar are straight, then it defeats the purpose of a gay bar. This is why a lot of gay bars are sex-segregated: straight women don’t want to go to lesbian bars where lesbians or bi women hit on them, and straight men don’t want to go to gay male bars where gay or bi men hit on them. Straight men usually don’t bother go to lesbian bars, but it is trendy for straight women to go to gay male bars so straight men end up going to these bars. And now that transgenderism is universally accepted, straight women pretend to be men to go to gay male bars and straight men pretend to be women to go to lesbian bars.

To be fair, most straight people who go to gay bars know that they are just guests. They go with a friend who is gay or bi and stick with that friend, and they make it clear that they are only there to support their friend. But some straight people go to gay bars because for them it’s like going to the zoo.

I know that most pubs and nightclubs are open to the wider public, regardless of sexual orientation. But if a bar exclusively for heterosexuals was opened up, I wouldn’t object. And if I was invited, I would decline. Unless a friend needed me to accompany him or her, in which case I would stay at my booth so that I don’t draw attention from straight or bi women and end up leading them on.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and things were never chummy-chummy in the OG LG community (you never hear someone surprised by cattiness and drama among the gays)--there was always an insistence on distance; bar subculture before the 70s was strictly reputation-based--some accept mixed groups, others you'll get The Stare if a bunch of surfer-dude types show up

the closest analogy to today from the 70s was the fad insisting that "everyone's either bi--or in denial!" leading to man/woman couples getting The Stare while trying to find a table in the local gay watering hole

but back then they didn't have the social media Narcissism Machine

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To be honest, I don't like gay culture at all, if I can even call it gay culture. Besides cattyness being an utter turnoff, it's just pleasant to be around. I also don't like the expectation that gay men have to act a certain way, or else they're "not really gay"? It's as if being gay is supposed to be a personality for a lot of people.