Disney's first film with LGBTQ+ lead bombs at box office – and fans have thoughts (gay fans accuse Disney of purposely trying to sabotage the movie through lack or marketing to justify lack of gay representation in future movies)

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[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Hollywood has massively misjudged what matters to the majority of their customers, and we are seeing it with the massive flops of Bros, She Said, Lightyear, Don’t Worry Darling, Amsterdam. Even Marvel films and TV series are flopping, Black Panther 2:Wakandan Boogaloo, is struggling to break even. Avatar 2 is set to be the biggest flop in history, needing $2b to just break even. Star Wars is a dead IP, Star Trek is dead, Lord of the Rings, although not Disney is potentially suffering the same fate, could be too if the animated Rohirrim film flops next year and Indiana Jones is looking to be that way ahead of Indy 5 next year. James Bond is looking very much like the producers want to diversify him, and lose everything that made him enjoyable. It’s hard to understand how this has all happened other than by the toxic effects of social media and the critical social justice cult.

Hollywood is in big trouble and it was them that killed the golden goose in service to their current year ideology.

The other disaster for Hollywood has been JJ Abrams and his coterie of directors, writers and producers. He talked up his “mystery box” style of writing and now it is being used everywhere, the trouble is that it’s not a tactic that works with existing IPs. Combine JJ Abrams with ideologically-driven productions and you explain the disastrous Star Wars sequels and series, the destruction of Star Trek both in theatres and TV and the shite that was Rings of Power (the show runners, never having had a producer credit before, got given the gig for the most expensive TV show in history on Abrams recommendation and they wrote it in Abrams style).

[–]LyingSpirit472 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

In defense, though, a lot of these flops may be less "wokeness is killing movies" and more "the movie theater as a whole is dying." The pandemic had made it so that a lot of people decided "why bother going to a movie theater at a certain time and spend $100 bucks and two hours of my life that I will never get back to go sit in a big room filled with people where I'm putting my and my family's lives at risk just to see a movie, when for $15 a month I can stay home, watch the same movie on my schedule, make cheaper snacks myself, and if the movie's shit I can just turn it off and watch something else?", and that toothpaste isn't going back in the tube.

Current year is AN issue, but it's not the biggest issue. Hell, current year's a stone groove to the real issue [if you decided to stream Strange World at home, for example, and the person is legitimately a homophobe and legitimately were so turned off by seeing a gay person in a movie they immediately ended the film over it to watch something else- you still clicked on it, Disney Plus got your click money- and even if you didn't even click they still got your money for subscribing.)

[–]ClassroomPast6178 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Except Top Gun Maverick is heading for what, $2billion? People will go out to see stuff they want to see, and will go again if they like it.

Disney plus is losing billions, apparently it’s bundled with other products really heavily so it doesn’t actually pull in the money to cover the costs of production. I get my sub free with my mobile phone contract.

[–]bopomofodojo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It can absolutely be both.

10 years ago, people might go to a movie, what, every 2-3 weeks, if there were things showing, and there was a ton of choice every week. It was just a "thing people did".

Streaming and COVID lockdowns killed most of that, coupled with the consistent rise in streaming, leaving many people to having 2 years where nobody did that "thing people did". Add to that the endless rising costs of everything where a ticket is now $20.

And now we're coming out of it, and instead of jumping right back into a movie every 2-3 weeks, people might be going every 2-3 months instead, if that. Thus they're far more stingy on what they see. "A big budget sequel to a great movie from 30 years ago which hasn't already been ground into fine mist for sequels? Sounds appealing for my one movie these few months. Some random crap from Disney that's got an 'LGTBTQWTF protagonist'? Why bother, trailer looks like shit, I'll catch it on Plus later for free and if it sucks I'm not out $20 and a trip to the theater."

People have been saying that for years because it's been a trend for years. It's just been masked by the fact that fewer and fewer movies are being made every year as studios consolidate behind basically 2 giant ones, and that the movies that do get made are all these giant-budget blockbusters. What's different now is that we're seeing blockbuster after blockbuster from the studios underperform, which if that trend continues will certainly trigger some sort of correction.